NorthSideSox72 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I don't have any numbers here - just an observation. I've heard more than one Sox fan recently complain about the pace of the game, with our pitchers. More than one have said that it feels like the pitchers are taking much longer between pitches. If this was true, that might put the defenders at a disadvantage. The starting pitchers haven't changed a ton, though there has been some change. One thing that has changed - the catcher. All are possibilities. So, do people see this as being the case? are pitchers really taking longer? I can't find game time by team data for 2013. Curious on people's thoughts on this. Could be nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 18, 2013 -> 03:06 PM) I don't have any numbers here - just an observation. I've heard more than one Sox fan recently complain about the pace of the game, with our pitchers. More than one have said that it feels like the pitchers are taking much longer between pitches. If this was true, that might put the defenders at a disadvantage. The starting pitchers haven't changed a ton, though there has been some change. One thing that has changed - the catcher. All are possibilities. So, do people see this as being the case? are pitchers really taking longer? I can't find game time by team data for 2013. Curious on people's thoughts on this. Could be nothing. I think that's a good theory. If MLB kept a time of possession stat the Sox would be among the worst in it. Too many 1-2-3 innings offensively has to wear on the defenders as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 It has seemed the pace of the game has been slower this year even with the Sox not providing much offense. There have been 3 hour games were only a few runs have crossed the plate. It could be a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Teams take longer between innings. Adds up. Gotta have those commercials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 18, 2013 -> 03:17 PM) It has seemed the pace of the game has been slower this year even with the Sox not providing much offense. There have been 3 hour games were only a few runs have crossed the plate. It could be a factor. Hector and Jose both could use some Mark Buehrle lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 18, 2013 -> 09:01 PM) Teams take longer between innings. Adds up. Gotta have those commercials. This has not changed in AT LEAST the last 15 years Edited September 19, 2013 by witesoxfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 19, 2013 -> 09:24 AM) This has not changed in AT LEAST the last 15 years yeah, I was more getting at the Sox versus other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Not a bad theory. Nice post. Not be be accused of living in 2005, but I did tell you folks Mark Buehrle was a coach on the mound. He was a GREAT EXAMPLE for all our other starters. But noooo we let him and his fast, fast, did I say fricking FAST, manner of pitching go somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 19, 2013 -> 01:36 PM) Not a bad theory. Nice post. Not be be accused of living in 2005, but I did tell you folks Mark Buehrle was a coach on the mound. He was a GREAT EXAMPLE for all our other starters. But noooo we let him and his fast, fast, did I say fricking FAST, manner of pitching go somewhere else. Judging by the contract he signed, letting him go was 100% the correct decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Sep 19, 2013 -> 06:40 PM) Judging by the contract he signed, letting him go was 100% the correct decision. But if our slow pitchers helped cause the defensive woes ... and if the defensive woes caused us to lose 33 one-run games, hmmmm would he have been worth signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 19, 2013 -> 01:42 PM) But if our slow pitchers helped cause the defensive woes ... and if the defensive woes caused us to lose 33 one-run games, hmmmm would he have been worth signing? They lost 21 one run games last year. They won 85 games last year without Mark Buehrle and it took an historical choke to miss the playoffs with essentially the same rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 19, 2013 -> 02:08 PM) Hector and Jose both could use some Mark Buehrle lessons. I think this is it. Cooper wants them to pitch more quickly. They seem to fall into that trap of slowing down when they get behind which is caused because they don't attack the strike zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 19, 2013 -> 04:12 PM) I think this is it. Cooper wants them to pitch more quickly. They seem to fall into that trap of slowing down when they get behind which is caused because they don't attack the strike zone Both them need to stop walking people. I hate how hector takes 10 pitches to get a strikeout. Stat padding booger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 19, 2013 -> 04:42 PM) Both them need to stop walking people. I hate how hector takes 10 pitches to get a strikeout. Stat padding booger. I doubt he's stat-padding, I think he's just not fully learned going from a thrower to a pitcher yet. Wants to strike everyone out, make the perfect pitch, instead of being OK with early contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 19, 2013 -> 01:42 PM) But if our slow pitchers helped cause the defensive woes ... and if the defensive woes caused us to lose 33 one-run games, hmmmm would he have been worth signing? If it was up to you, we'd have a $275m payroll of 35 year olds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 19, 2013 -> 10:36 PM) If it was up to you, we'd have a $275m payroll of 35 year olds. All WS vets to. No losing bums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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