southsider2k5 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Hawk just mentioned it during the broadcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 28, 2013 -> 07:54 PM) Hawk just mentioned it during the broadcast. Certainly odd that he broke the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Sep 28, 2013 -> 07:54 PM) Certainly odd that he broke the news. Yes it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Odd that none of us heard this before. Not even the beat writers mentioned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Had to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Thome next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 28, 2013 -> 07:55 PM) Odd that none of us heard this before. Not even the beat writers mentioned it. Strange indeed. Hawk just dropped it out of no where. It is no where else to be found on twitter or the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 28, 2013 -> 07:58 PM) Thome next year? I could definitely see that happening, and I would love it. I truly believe he can help Viciedo and develop Avi's power swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I know it sounds crazy, but I actually think he had done a better job than his predecessor (at least how Walker had done over his last several years as coach). He presided over Rios and Dunn returning to having value, which was incredibly important. Unfortunately, our team offenses have struggled due to PK's rapid decline, Alexei's regression, and the non-emergence of several other bats. It looked like Gordon Beckham might save his job, but Gordon has since plummeted into a position where he himself is probably losing his job. Dayan has remained inconsistent. Guys like Flowers, Phegley, Morel never broke through and Jeff Keppinger came in and had the worst year of his career. You might say Conor Gillaspie was an accomplishment, but turning a AAAA player into a slightly above replacement bat isn't something to hang one's hat on; and we really have no clue whether Manto had anything to do with Gillaspie who was acquired during ST. I don't think that a bad season means heads have to roll, but from the outside looking in it certainly seems reasonable. Bad offense, pretty much no improvement from players short of veterans returning to past form (not quite that, in Dunn's case). I'm guessing that things that are seen from within by Robin, Hahn, and the players have confirmed that we can do better. The key benefit to this timing is how little continuity we're going to have on the player side of things. The only key player who may "suffer" from the switch of hitting coaches is Dayan, who has clearly been working with Manto for quite a while. With that said, it isn't as if Manto had made Dayan into a great hitter and it may be the case that Tank didn't like working with him anyway. Beyond that, there is going to be a ton of roster turnover so this is the perfect time to get a new hitting coach into the mix. Get the coach who you want raising your young players like Avisail, Semien, etc. from Day 1. For that, it's a smart move. You let your fans know that you are serious and you put yourself in position to get a new guy to guide these young players throughout the offseason and into the starts of their careers. If Manto's the wrong guy, you get him away from the young guys ASAP and you don't waste their time working with a different philosophy of coach throughout AFL and whatever else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 28, 2013 -> 07:56 PM) Had to happen Robin staying is fine...but I didnt think his entire staff would be back and he certainly shouldnt have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Doug Padilla @ESPNChiSox 3s Hawk said on the air that Manto is out as hitting coach. No White Sox confirmation as of now. Manto was not on the bench that last inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannerfan Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Very strange way to do it with the season over tomorrow. Why not wait until next week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Wow, didn't see that coming til Monday if it was gonna happen. Glad, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Strange that Hawk is the one dropping this news, in game 161 of the season no less, but it's definitely the right move IMO. I think a lot of people on this site, myself included, weren't fans of the hire to begin with when Manto explained his views on hitting. I don't expect a lot of people to be sad to see him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Yeah I wonder about the reporting of this. I almost wonder if we misunderstood Hawk or Hawk misunderstood some other kind of info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Thome almost certainly is his replacement which means Konerko probably comes back imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 QUOTE (Tannerfan @ Sep 28, 2013 -> 08:31 PM) Very strange way to do it with the season over tomorrow. Why not wait until next week? Maybe they want to announce the replacement before tomorrow's game? All I can think of for the odd timing of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 28, 2013 -> 08:36 PM) Yeah I wonder about the reporting of this. I almost wonder if we misunderstood Hawk or Hawk misunderstood some other kind of info I don't think there is any question they were waiting to announce it, at least until after the game. I would bet they told Manto earlier today that he had been relieved, and Manto decided he didn't want to finish the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 28, 2013 -> 08:40 PM) I don't think there is any question they were waiting to announce it, at least until after the game. I would bet they told Manto earlier today that he had been relieved, and Manto decided he didn't want to finish the season. That would seem the most logical. But this season has questioned logic in nearly every aspect! I bet you're right though. Edited September 29, 2013 by WilliamTell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Hahn saying it will probably be a guy with hitting coach experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 According to Hahn they want a hitting coach with experience which would rule out Thome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 A million times better than Walker so he had success there. Still wont be missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord chas Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Give Charlie Manuel a call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Thomas or Thome.. Or maybe even Konerko?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I would love it to be Thome or Konerko, but Robin apparently wants a current or former hitting coach. What is Rudy Jaramillo doing these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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