caulfield12 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Oct 16, 2013 -> 03:52 PM) Yep. Alexei 7 for 12 in SB in 2011. 30 for 39 in 2013. Coachable in terms of general offensive philosophy and making smart decisions (not going brain dead on routine plays) out in the field on a consistent basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Oct 15, 2013 -> 08:04 PM) The prob is there's no way to sort by a minimum # of opportunities. If I set a min of 400 plate appearances, here's that list: Florimon 68% Shuck 66 Dozier 62 Bonifacio 61 Kinsler 61 Trout 59 Bautista 58 Puig 58 Aybar 57 Alc. Escobar 57 Rasmus, Andrus, Bourn, Stubbs, Jennings, Reyes, Crisp, Alexei closely after that But Trout was on 1st base when a single was hit 44 times. Florimon (amazingly) only 12 times in 440 pa. There'd obviously be a decent amount of variability in this one stat year-to-year based on the small sample size. Nonetheless, as you see, you've got a lot of the usual suspects at the top of the list. For comparison, since he's been discussed so much, De Aza was at 56% last year, and now 50% for his career. Would have expected to see Bourjos, Marte, a couple of others....what was Billy Hamilton in his limited appearances? That huge outfield explains Florimon and Dozier. JB Shuck and Bautista? Hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 03:27 AM) Would have expected to see Bourjos, Marte, a couple of others....what was Billy Hamilton in his limited appearances? That huge outfield explains Florimon and Dozier. JB Shuck and Bautista? Hmmm. Bourjos was 56%. Had less than 200 plate appearances. Hamilton 100%. 5 for 5 scoring from 2nd on single, no surprise. Also realized that link was just AL. Bautista has been good in that stat consistently. He's apparently pretty aggressive on the base paths, and so makes quite a few outs as well. Edited October 17, 2013 by Vance Law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 02:23 AM) Coachable in terms of general offensive philosophy and making smart decisions (not going brain dead on routine plays) out in the field on a consistent basis. I don't believe Alejandro De Aza can learn how to steal bases. (show Alexei's improvement) Yeah BUT HOW DID HE DO IN THE FIELD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 08:32 AM) I don't believe Alejandro De Aza can learn how to steal bases. (show Alexei's improvement) Yeah BUT HOW DID HE DO IN THE FIELD It's entirely possible, in that you can't DISPROVE it, that a player's defensive and baserunning skills are fueled by the SAME pool of mana. If this is true, and also the law of conservation of mass and energy is true, we can assume that any improvement ADA would make in one category would necessarily make him worse in the other. As far as explaining him getting worse at both? He would have to have been selling his mana for drugs or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 10:15 AM) It's entirely possible, in that you can't DISPROVE it, that a player's defensive and baserunning skills are fueled by the SAME pool of mana. If this is true, and also the law of conservation of mass and energy is true, we can assume that any improvement ADA would make in one category would necessarily make him worse in the other. As far as explaining him getting worse at both? He would have to have been selling his mana for drugs or something. I hate those mana for health spells. I mean seriously, just save a f***ing potion or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 [unsubstantiated rumor mongering] Hector Santiago is retweeting Grandersons charity [/unsubstantiated rumor mongering] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 09:39 AM) I hate those mana for health spells. I mean seriously, just save a f***ing potion or something Are we talking about manias, mass or manna from heaven, lol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 23, 2013 -> 11:48 PM) Are we talking about manias, mass or manna from heaven, lol? None of the above. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 23, 2013 -> 10:28 PM) [unsubstantiated rumor mongering] Hector Santiago is retweeting Grandersons charity [/unsubstantiated rumor mongering] Very interesting to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayan024 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Vincent Rizzo Sports @VRizzoSports 21 Oct #MLB #NYYankee outfielder Curtis Granderson is VERY CLOSE to sign 5-YEAR DEAL W/ Chicago White Sox, deal worth 16 million per yr. #VRSports Dont know how credible this guy is so take it with a grain of salt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) Vincent Rizzo Sports @VRizzoSports 21 Oct #MLB #NYYankee outfielder Curtis Granderson is VERY CLOSE to sign 5-YEAR DEAL W/ Chicago White Sox, deal worth 16 million per yr. #VRSports Dont know how credible this guy is so take it with a grain of salt I'd bet just about any amount of money that isn't true. Nobody is giving Granderson that kind of money. Edit: Also just noticed the tweet was from three days ago. No way that doesn't get some play from the usual sources if there's any truth to it. Edited October 24, 2013 by HickoryHuskers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I have no idea where the posts went but the last time that tweet was posted here at ST everyone agreed it was BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Eh, I don't know Davey, that was reported 2 days ago and you'd think if it was VERY CLOSE like he said that it would be picked up by more "reliable" guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 It'd be tampering if he were talking with the White Sox right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 24, 2013 -> 01:19 PM) I'd bet just about any amount of money that isn't true. Nobody is giving Granderson that kind of money. Edit: Also just noticed the tweet was from three days ago. No way that doesn't get some play from the usual sources if there's any truth to it. This Rizzo fellow is a bookie so he might take you up on that bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 QUOTE (scs787 @ Oct 24, 2013 -> 01:33 PM) This Rizzo fellow is a bookie so he might take you up on that bet. Granderson is not currently a free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 It'd be tampering if he were talking with the White Sox right now Well there's that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 24, 2013 -> 07:00 AM) Very interesting to say the least. Santiago is from New York and I'm assuming Granderson has his charity in New York - so, to me - it's not that interesting really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 This Rizzo fellow is a bookie so he might take you up on that bet. I'd give him 3:1 odds and I'd even give him +/- one year on the length of contract and +/- $3M on the money per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 24, 2013 -> 11:36 AM) I'd give him 3:1 odds and I'd even give him +/- one year on the length of contract and +/- $3M on the money per year. The whole Granderson to the Sox thing has to be garbage . Hahn keeps talkig about acquiring players who fit long term and Grandy ain't that. Not even close and at those prices I'd lose all faith in Hahn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Oct 24, 2013 -> 02:32 PM) The whole Granderson to the Sox thing has to be garbage . Hahn keeps talkig about acquiring players who fit long term and Grandy ain't that. Not even close and at those prices I'd lose all faith in Hahn. It is false. The Sox can't talk to him until 5 days after the WS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 24, 2013 -> 01:24 PM) I have no idea where the posts went but the last time that tweet was posted here at ST everyone agreed it was BS. We are still in a blackout period, and Granderson isn't a free agent yet were teh two big things brought up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Even if you thought they were speaking under the table (which I don't), how could the Sox put a valuation on him before he finds out if he receives a qualifying offer? It's 100% false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 24, 2013 -> 12:34 PM) It is false. The Sox can't talk to him until 5 days after the WS. Yea I understand I'm just saying the whole thing from the very beginning in the Suntimes and everything about it is garbage. If Granderson signs with anyone before New Years I'd be surprised. Edited October 24, 2013 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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