Baron Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 11, 2013 -> 05:35 PM) No team is going to give up a high pick to sign him to a short term deal though. It doesn't make any sense. Some of these guys will end up like Kyle Lohse and Michael Bourn waiting forever to get a deal. Not saying it makes sense but thats probably what he is hoping for. More security from a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Ugh. I sure hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I fear skewed numbers from playing in Yankee Stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/11/al-c...medium=facebook The White Sox like Curtis Granderson, but they may feel that he's not worth the type of contract that he will command or losing a second-round pick, writes Dan Hayes of CSNChicago.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I'm giving Hahn the benefit of the doubt here -- this would be just too stupid a move to be realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) They have wanted Granderson since when he was a Tiger. Supposedly they had identified some flaw in his swing. Considering they cannot correct the flaws in the swings they do employ, I don't know if that really means anything. I don't think he is coming, but KW usually gets his man. Eventually. Edited November 12, 2013 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 12, 2013 -> 03:17 PM) I'm giving Hahn the benefit of the doubt here -- this would be just too stupid a move to be realistic. This. You'd think they would have learned by now how much it sucks to have a low average, power or nothing, left-handed hitter, let alone just adding one for the f*** of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 12, 2013 -> 03:10 PM) This. You'd think they would have learned by now how much it sucks to have a low average, power or nothing, left-handed hitter, let alone just adding one for the f*** of it. Purchased at the beginning of his decline at the cost of a draft pick and to the detriment of their OF defense, assuming they'd "veteran entitlement" him into CF all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 12, 2013 -> 04:18 PM) Purchased at the beginning of his decline at the cost of a draft pick and to the detriment of their OF defense, assuming they'd "veteran entitlement" him into CF all year. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 All things considered, I honestly think I'd rank signing Granderson to a multi-year deal right up there with the Sox signing Erstad. He at least has a lot of talent, but that just seems like a move that would backfire in a big way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayan024 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Andy Martino @MartinoNYDN 1m #WhiteSox seen as possible #Mets competition for Granderson, but told they are very unlikely as serious bidders for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 QUOTE (dayan024 @ Nov 12, 2013 -> 05:31 PM) Andy Martino @MartinoNYDN 1m #WhiteSox seen as possible #Mets competition for Granderson, but told they are very unlikely as serious bidders for him. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 12, 2013 -> 04:38 PM) All things considered, I honestly think I'd rank signing Granderson to a multi-year deal right up there with the Sox signing Erstad. He at least has a lot of talent, but that just seems like a move that would backfire in a big way. Excellent analogy. Great point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) I think the Sox were more interested when he didn't cost a draft pick. Besides hitting homers, i think they thought of him as a nice veteran influence on the younger players. His "value" was going to be more than his numbers indicate, but with Abreu signing and Curtis getting a QO it doesn't appear to be in the cards. Edited November 13, 2013 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) If anything, the loss of a 2nd round draft pick should lower his overall $ value a tad. However, im not sure how signing Granderson to a mega deal fits into Hahn's plan of long term sustainable success? Unless Hahn feels he can get decent prospects back in return through trades, I can't see this going down.. Edited November 13, 2013 by GreatScott82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayan024 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Granderson article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 4 years 70 million with the White Sox? I may throw up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 13, 2013 -> 05:38 PM) 4 years 70 million with the White Sox? I may throw up Yeah, that would be hella lame. I was all for Granderson before he got the QO, but only if he gave us a serious hometown discount (say 3/36). Given that he will cost us a draft pick now and bonus money, there's really no deal that makes sense for us and 4/70 would be an epic fail on Hahn's part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 13, 2013 -> 06:38 PM) 4 years 70 million with the White Sox? I may throw up If the Sox are going to give any free agent that kind of money, his name better be McCann. I don't believe this one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I see Bucket is in here...hear any new rumblings? Gotta be some kind of rumors floating around with the GM meetings going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 13, 2013 -> 06:04 PM) I see Bucket is in here...hear any new rumblings? Gotta be some kind of rumors floating around with the GM meetings going on. "The Sox have discussed Granderson and, while they like the idea of adding him, they do not like the idea of surrendering a 2nd round pick in what is already a weakened system and their pursuit of him is going to be timid at best." This is what I am going to guess bucket would say. In other words, if you read the news, you know what's going on. Hahn has already basically said that they are done with major free agents and, given the $9+ mill they get in the draft and the $6 or so they get in international spending, they'll currently be right around $102 mill. Add in a couple filler free agents, and that gets to $105-110 pretty quickly. I think they'll check in on Saltalamacchia, but they'll ultimately opt to go in a different direction and Abreu will be the only major free agent signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 It wouldn't shock me if we sign Granderson. It isn't, on its face, a horrible decision. It would absolutely blow my mind if we gave him $70M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Question for all - it has been mentioned that we'll call the BoSox about Victorino. Would you prefer to sign Granderson for something like 4/$40M or trade something valuable for Victorino? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 08:46 AM) Question for all - it has been mentioned that we'll call the BoSox about Victorino. Would you prefer to sign Granderson for something like 4/$40M or trade something valuable for Victorino? The questions would be why would Boston want to trade him, and what would it cost to get him? Most likely a lot more than a 2nd round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 08:50 AM) The questions would be why would Boston want to trade him, and what would it cost to get him? Most likely a lot more than a 2nd round pick. Victorino's contract is at 2/$26M. I would take him as he is a great clubhouse guy, plays good defense, and gets on base. Not sure why the Red Sox would move him though, at least until they get some replacements in house. I expect that they will sign Choo, but they still need a LF'er to play with Bradley in CF, unless they want the Gomes/Carp/Nava platoon out there. I just don't know how the two teams match up for a deal. The Red Sox need upgrades at the corner IF positions and C and the Sox don't really have anything to offer there. Their rotation is over filled and they are looking to move pitching, so I just dont see how a deal gets done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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