Ozzie will further endear himself with these comments

[caulfield12]

“I don’t care what the White Sox do,” Guillen said. “As a White Sox fan, they are always going to be No. 2, unfortunately, no matter what they do. It’s like the Cubs (are the team) in town.

 

“You got the tape. One day (in 2008) I got mad and I’m like: ‘Why we got to be the b----? The Chicago B------.’

 

“Nobody’s going to change that. I don’t care if the White Sox win 10 World Series from now and the Cubs don’t win any. The Cubs are always going to be (the team). They say: ‘Well, the White Sox won three years ago. OK, but Cubs are going to win this year.’ That’s our mentality in Chicago.”

 

https://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/ozzie-guill...s-want-cubs-job

 

Later in the story, he was fairly conciliatory to Jerry, KW, Hahn, etc., having some nice things to say about the organization and also the 2005 team.

 

The whole pretext of the article was the idea of Guillen managing the Cubs.

 

 

“All my kids ask me that: Would you ever manage the Cubs if they asked?” Guillen said. “Hey, this is my business. This is my job. Of course I will.

 

“If I win in this town…I don’t know what they’re going to think about Michael and Oprah and Phil Jackson.”

 

“I was walking around with my wife a couple days ago and she asked me that,” Guillen said last month. “Can you picture winning with the Cubs?

 

“Yeah, I can picture it, because I know how (to do it). I’d tell all my family in Venezuela: Get a passport and we’re moving to Chicago. Because I think that would be amazing. Whatever manager wins it for the Cubs, or whatever GM wins it for the Cubs or whoever wins that MVP, he (lives) forever, especially in this city. Because they’re so desperate, they’re so hungry and they’re so mad.”

 

 

[Rowand44]

Hope he does go to the Cubs, that'd be fun.

[greg775]

Hope he does go to the Cubs, that'd be fun.

 

It would be phenomenal reading Ozzie's quotes every day. I bet at this stage he'd do the job for very very little pay. I know he's all about money but to get back in baseball? I bet he'd do it on the cheap. He burned so many bridges he'll never manage again. He's even too radical in that story, too non P.C. to get a team to hire him.

[Jerksticks]

The only way I see a team taking a risk on Ozzie is if their manager dies or gets canned midseason, and they need somebody capable of leading a contending,maybe veteran team to the playoffs. Fill in only. Hero potential, then maybe an extension. But I just can't see any team with Ozzie Guillen as Plan A going into a season.

[LittleHurt05]

His comments are 100% correct despite what some Sox fans tend to think.

[Quin]

It would be phenomenal reading Ozzie's quotes every day. I bet at this stage he'd do the job for very very little pay. I know he's all about money but to get back in baseball? I bet he'd do it on the cheap. He burned so many bridges he'll never manage again. He's even too radical in that story, too non P.C. to get a team to hire him.

 

He's not giving up his current Marlins money for anything less.

[Texsox]

You know who would appreciate it more than anyone? This guy http://www.leeelia.com/

 

Lee Elia Press Conference Tirade

 

Click here to download the recording.

 

"f*** those f***in' fans who come out here and say they're Cub fans that are supposed to be behind you rippin' every f***in' thing you do. I'll tell you one f***in' thing, I hope we get f***in' hotter than s***, just to stuff it up them 3,000 f***in' people that show up every f***in' day, because if they're the real Chicago f***in' fans, they can kiss my f***in' ass right downtown and PRINT IT.

 

"They're really, really behind you around here... my f***in' ass. What the f*** am I supposed to do, go out there and let my f***in' players get destroyed every day and be quiet about it? For the f***in' nickel-dime people who turn up? The motherf***ers don't even work. That's why they're out at the f***in' game. They oughta go out and get a f***in' job and find out what it's like to go out and earn a f***in' living. Eighty-five percent of the f***in' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f***in' playground for the cocksuckers. Rip them motherf***ers. Rip them f***in' cocksuckers like the f***in' players. we got guys bustin' their f***in' ass, and them f***in' people boo. And that's the Cubs? My players get around here. I haven't seen it this f***in' year. Everybody associated with this organization have been winners their whole f***in' life. Everybody. And the credit is not given in that respect.

 

"Alright, they don't show because we're 5 and 14... and unfortunately, that's the criteria of them dumb 15 motherf***in' percent that come out to day baseball. The other 85 percent are earning a living. I tell you, it'll take more than a 5 and 12 or 5 and 14 to destroy the makeup of this club. I guarantee you that. There's some f***in' pros out there that wanna win. But you're stuck in a f***in' stigma of the f***in' Dodgers and the Phillies and the Cardinals and all that cheap s***. It's unbelievable. It really is. It's a disheartening f***in' situation that we're in right now. Anybody who was associated with the Cub organization four or five years ago that came back and sees the multitude of progress that's been made will understand that if they're baseball people, that 5 and 14 doesn't negate all that work. We got 143 f***in' games left.

 

"What I'm tryin' to say is don't rip them f***in' guys out there. Rip me. If you wanna rip somebody, rip my f***in' ass. But don't rip them f***in' guys 'cause they're givin' everything they can give. And right now they're tryin' to do more than God gave 'em, and that's why we make the simple mistakes. That's exactly why."

 

I think Ozzie could do better!

[southsider2k5]

Theo could never hire a guy with a strong personality than him.

[Steve9347]

His comments are 100% correct despite what some Sox fans tend to think.

I was going to post this.

[Kyyle23]

Theo could never hire a guy with a strong personality than him.

 

Wouldnt Girardi have been a stronger personality?

[Dick Allen]

Theo could never hire a guy with a strong personality than him.

Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. Ozzie wouldn't last long with Theo and Hoyer. Remember Oney not having any respect for Sox front office guys that didn't play professionally like he did?

[Dick Allen]

His comments are 100% correct despite what some Sox fans tend to think.

I think if the Sox actually won 10 in a row like he said, and the Cubs continued being the Cubs, he would be wrong, but I do think it would take something really extreme. Not just winning once or twice. But there definitely was a change in Cubs' fans attitudes once the Sox did win. There is no denying that.

Edited October 10, 2013 by Dick Allen

[witesoxfan]

His comments are 100% correct despite what some Sox fans tend to think.

 

Yeah, I agree. I think if they went on an extended period - 10 years or so - of sustained success in the form of a couple World Series and 6-8 postseason births, you'd see a shift, but people want to watch and see the Cubs. It's similar to the Yankees and Mets in New York - no matter what the Mets do, it's always going to be a Yankees town. That's a little different thanks to the overwhelming success of the Yankees franchise compared to the historic and well-documented failures of the Cubs organization, but it's a valid comparison.

[Harry Chappas]

Yeah, I agree. I think if they went on an extended period - 10 years or so - of sustained success in the form of a couple World Series and 6-8 postseason births, you'd see a shift, but people want to watch and see the Cubs. It's similar to the Yankees and Mets in New York - no matter what the Mets do, it's always going to be a Yankees town. That's a little different thanks to the overwhelming success of the Yankees franchise compared to the historic and well-documented failures of the Cubs organization, but it's a valid comparison.

 

The opportunity to gain on the cubs was there. Not winning a post-season series after 2005 cost them that opportunity. The last two years were prime pickings for Chicago baseball and the White Sox blew it.

 

the next two years if the cub rebuild does not take hold will be the time.....

 

I agree with the previous posters, Ozzie is 1000% correct

[NorthSideSox72]

Ozzie's right as of today... but people sure do have short memories for history. Over time, this has been a clear Sox town, at times. Not for a while of course - the Cubs started really dominanting in the 80's when the neighborhoods changed, Reinsdorff made his biggest mistake ever turning down WGN to go to Cablevision, and the Cubs started night games.

 

But things change over time. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that the Sox could, eventually, be the more dominant player in terms of attendance and viewership. And even fan base, eventually. But a lot of things have to go just right, and it would still take a long time.

 

[knightni]

"You are going to take batting practice and the rats look bigger than a pig out there...I think the rats out there are lifting weights."

[greg775]

He's not giving up his current Marlins money for anything less.

 

Great point. I forgot that money gets wiped out if he gets another job. It's pretty amazing a guy who loves baseball like Ozzie will never get back in the game cause of his mouth. Only chance is to be a bench coach or 3B coach and only way he gets that is if a manager reminds him he is a run of the mill coach and he will NOT EVER under any circumstance speak with the media (except the week he is announced as bench coach and fields questions in a PC manner).

[greg775]

"You are going to take batting practice and the rats look bigger than a pig out there...I think the rats out there are lifting weights."

 

This is why I miss Ozzie so damn much (plus the ring on his finger and the memories I have of the only baseball title I'll see in my lifetime). Some of you (not naming names) take sports so damn seriously. I thought Ozzie was funny as f*** and I miss his quotes. We haven't seen ANYTHING close to the above mentioned quote from plastic Robin.

[pettie4sox]

Ozzie blows greg. The sooner you accept it the better.

 

Here greg, have a snickers.

[lasttriptotulsa]

This is why I miss Ozzie so damn much (plus the ring on his finger and the memories I have of the only baseball title I'll see in my lifetime). Some of you (not naming names) take sports so damn seriously. I thought Ozzie was funny as f*** and I miss his quotes. We haven't seen ANYTHING close to the above mentioned quote from plastic Robin.

 

Why does you manager need to be a quote machine? Why does he need to make himself out to be a sideshow to the media like Ozzie did. Did you ever see LaRussa or Torre ever make the story out to be about them? They are paid to manage the team to the best of their ability and that's what the great ones do. I'm certainly not saying Robin is in there league, but I would much rather have him managing than Ozzie who constantly embarassed himself and the orginization.

[LittleHurt05]

This is why I miss Ozzie so damn much (plus the ring on his finger and the memories I have of the only baseball title I'll see in my lifetime). Some of you (not naming names) take sports so damn seriously. I thought Ozzie was funny as f*** and I miss his quotes. We haven't seen ANYTHING close to the above mentioned quote from plastic Robin.

 

When the Sox do part ways with Robin, I think I found the perfect list to start the managerial search from.

 

http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=90133

[Kyyle23]

Its not even worth arguing anymore(even though I do, sometimes, continue to argue it).

 

Ozzie could say that greg was the ugliest human being ever and his hometown was the worst town he has ever been to, and greg would find it funny and support it.

[greg775]

Why does you manager need to be a quote machine? Why does he need to make himself out to be a sideshow to the media like Ozzie did. Did you ever see LaRussa or Torre ever make the story out to be about them? They are paid to manage the team to the best of their ability and that's what the great ones do. I'm certainly not saying Robin is in there league, but I would much rather have him managing than Ozzie who constantly embarassed himself and the orginization.

 

But when you see that comment on the rats at Wrigley, doesn't that make your day? Week? Month? I have never seen a comment that funny from a sports figure in my life. Plus he's really hitting the Cubs where it hurts with that quote. A big league manager basically saying the Park is a total trash dump. Priceless ... IMO.

If we have to suffer a season like that last one, I'd much rather have Ozzeroo making me laugh my ass off.

[southsider2k5]

Ozzie's right as of today... but people sure do have short memories for history. Over time, this has been a clear Sox town, at times. Not for a while of course - the Cubs started really dominanting in the 80's when the neighborhoods changed, Reinsdorff made his biggest mistake ever turning down WGN to go to Cablevision, and the Cubs started night games.

 

But things change over time. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that the Sox could, eventually, be the more dominant player in terms of attendance and viewership. And even fan base, eventually. But a lot of things have to go just right, and it would still take a long time.

 

The foundation is already getting some cracks on the northside. This years attendance was as low as it has been since the 90's. If the rebuild staggers, they could see some real changes up there.

[witesoxfan]

The foundation is already getting some cracks on the northside. This years attendance was as low as it has been since the 90's. If the rebuild staggers, they could see some real changes up there.

 

The thing that I don't think a lot of people understand is that the Cubs could conceivably be REALLY good for 5-7 years and not even make it to the World Series. Pat Gillick was the GM for 4 incredibly good teams and only 2 of those teams won World Series, getting 3 titles in all. Now, I think that will do a lot to get their popularity back to where it was, but the opportunity to "take back" Chicago is not out of the realm of possibility, especially if so much is tied to the Cubs winning the World Series.