southsider2k5 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Click the link http://www.nutritionnews.com/food/diet-foo...ound-the-world/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Germans drink a lot of beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Cool article. Thanks for the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 LOL USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Germans have beer on their list, but no vodka for the Polish? I call bulls***. And McDonalds is in nearly every country in the world, yet only the Americans eat it? Come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) Over 50% of their stores are in the US Page 17 of this report breaks down revenues by region, but the US is one region and all of Europe is another. http://www.aboutmcdonalds.com/content/dam/...ort%20Final.pdf Edited October 17, 2013 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 10:31 AM) Over 50% of their stores are in the US Page 17 of this report breaks down revenues by region, but the US is one region and all of Europe is another. http://www.aboutmcdonalds.com/content/dam/...ort%20Final.pdf I never said Americans eat less fast food. I just said that other countries eat it too, but if they included it in these pictures, it would take away the point they are trying to prove. Every McDonalds I have been to in Europe has been packed at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Oh I was just throwing that data out there because I was curious myself and googled it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 10:59 AM) Oh I was just throwing that data out there because I was curious myself and googled it. Ha, I gotcha. I had seen some of the international info recently and it blew my mind. Just looked it up again, the amount of McDonalds in some foreign countries is very surprising to me. 27 restaurants in Pakistan, I would never guess there was one. Over 1200 in France, over 3500 in Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Speaking of McDonald's, I read the story of one of the workers trying to get them to pay everyone $15/hour. She claims that she is 26, has been working there for 10 years, has 2 kids (2 & 7) and is only making $8.25/hour. If you are only making 8.25 after working at the same place for 10 years, maybe the company isn't the problem. She should have either moved up or moved on by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 03:41 PM) Speaking of McDonald's, I read the story of one of the workers trying to get them to pay everyone $15/hour. She claims that she is 26, has been working there for 10 years, has 2 kids (2 & 7) and is only making $8.25/hour. If you are only making 8.25 after working at the same place for 10 years, maybe the company isn't the problem. She should have either moved up or moved on by now. Thankfully good-paying jobs with opportunities for advancement have been plentiful for the last 5 years, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 02:42 PM) Thankfully good-paying jobs with opportunities for advancement have been plentiful for the last 5 years, right? In almost exactly eight years I have increased my salary about 110%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 03:45 PM) In almost exactly eight years I have increased my salary about 110%. You have better than a high-school education I'm presuming? If a person has been working at McDonalds full time or nearly so since they were 16, they may well not have one. The unemployment rate for people with a high school education is currently 8.3%, and 12.4% for people with less than a high school education. If that person has a college degree, then that's a potentially likely reason why they haven't advanced, because they were only working that job part-time for a large portion of that period. And I'm sure McDonald's maternity leave policies are strong right? It's not like we'd be the only country other than Swaziland and Papua New Guinea to not mandate paid maternity leave, we couldn't possibly be that inhuman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Is it not possible that she is merely an adequate worker, doing the bare minimum just to get by? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 02:45 PM) In almost exactly eight years I have increased my salary about 110%. Wow, what a close-minded statement. Although, I will say that fast food workers do not deserve $15. It's not our fault that that woman has zero marketable skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 04:01 PM) Is it not possible that she is merely an adequate worker, doing the bare minimum just to get by? Clearly her mistake was having kids. Thankfully I'm sure McDonalds provides a strong health insurance plan for its employees including education and birth control benefits as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 03:03 PM) Clearly her mistake was having kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 02:48 PM) You have better than a high-school education I'm presuming? If a person has been working at McDonalds full time or nearly so since they were 16, they may well not have one. The unemployment rate for people with a high school education is currently 8.3%, and 12.4% for people with less than a high school education. If that person has a college degree, then that's a potentially likely reason why they haven't advanced, because they were only working that job part-time for a large portion of that period. And I'm sure McDonald's maternity leave policies are strong right? It's not like we'd be the only country other than Swaziland and Papua New Guinea to not mandate paid maternity leave, we couldn't possibly be that inhuman. It means there are jobs out there, if you do the right things. Being at MCD for 10 years and not getting a raise is probably a bigger indictment of the worker, than of MCD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 04:06 PM) It means there are jobs out there, if you do the right things. Being at MCD for 10 years and not getting a raise is probably a bigger indictment of the worker, than of MCD. Like I said, thankfully we know McDonalds has a strong health care plan for its employees and covers birth control so that people don't get stuck working a job like that while having to pay for a kid they had when they were 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 You have better than a high-school education I'm presuming? If a person has been working at McDonalds full time or nearly so since they were 16, they may well not have one. The unemployment rate for people with a high school education is currently 8.3%, and 12.4% for people with less than a high school education. If that person has a college degree, then that's a potentially likely reason why they haven't advanced, because they were only working that job part-time for a large portion of that period. And I'm sure McDonald's maternity leave policies are strong right? It's not like we'd be the only country other than Swaziland and Papua New Guinea to not mandate paid maternity leave, we couldn't possibly be that inhuman. The problem is that fast food work requires no advanced skill. The woman who has worked their 10 years is no more skilled than someone who has worked there 10 weeks. If you mandate higher wages for experience, the employers will simply respond by replacing everybody that has been there 2+ years and hasn't advanced into management. It's not like most other industries, where there is value in having employees with long tenures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 03:08 PM) Like I said, thankfully we know McDonalds has a strong health care plan for its employees and covers birth control so that people don't get stuck working a job like that while having to pay for a kid they had when they were 19. That is a cop out. Making mimimum wage, you can get birth control very cheaply in many places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 03:12 PM) The problem is that fast food work requires no advanced skill. The woman who has worked their 10 years is no more skilled than someone who has worked there 10 weeks. If you mandate higher wages for experience, the employers will simply respond by replacing everybody that has been there 2+ years and hasn't advanced into management. It's not like most other industries, where there is value in having employees with long tenures. And if you mandate a $15 wage for all of them, most places in that demographic will close, and none will have those jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 04:13 PM) That is a cop out. Making mimimum wage, you can get birth control very cheaply in many places. The biggest problem in your campaign for having this person earn a low wage to teach her a lesson about personal responsibility is how much damage it actually does to the economy when people like this can't grow up. They can't get an education, they can't get good jobs, and they can't contribute to the creation of good jobs. By the report, she had a kid when she was 19 and had been working at McDonalds for 3 years. I can't judge whether she was a high school dropout or not. But my point of view is...if people wind up stuck working minimum wage jobs for a decade+ because of what they did when they were 19, it's not just a personal failure, it's a major negative for society. On top of that, and I'm surprised you haven't figured this out yet...who do you think is paying for the kids? If she's working full time at McDonalds, that earns $17,000 a year before taxes. Unless there's a spouse contributing, that's not nearly enough to support 2 kids, and there's virtually no chance she has actual quality health coverage. Her kids are likely being partially/fully paid for by the taxpayers as well. So I hope it's worth it to you that this person gets their lesson about why they shouldn't have kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 04:14 PM) And if you mandate a $15 wage for all of them, most places in that demographic will close, and none will have those jobs. Really not true at all. Labor costs are less than 20% of the cost of a McDonalds Hamburger. Most of their franchises are extraordinarily profitable, and a cost increase of that magnitude would wind up causing only small decreases in profitability if their prices weren't adjusted in response. Of course, closing a few McDonalds would also do wonders for U.S. health care costs, but that's another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 03:19 PM) The biggest problem in your campaign for having this person earn a low wage to teach her a lesson about personal responsibility is how much damage it actually does to the economy when people like this can't grow up. They can't get an education, they can't get good jobs, and they can't contribute to the creation of good jobs. By the report, she had a kid when she was 19 and had been working at McDonalds for 3 years. I can't judge whether she was a high school dropout or not. But my point of view is...if people wind up stuck working minimum wage jobs for a decade+ because of what they did when they were 19, it's not just a personal failure, it's a major negative for society. On top of that, and I'm surprised you haven't figured this out yet...who do you think is paying for the kids? If she's working full time at McDonalds, that earns $17,000 a year before taxes. Unless there's a spouse contributing, that's not nearly enough to support 2 kids, and there's virtually no chance she has actual quality health coverage. Her kids are likely being partially/fully paid for by the taxpayers as well. So I hope it's worth it to you that this person gets their lesson about why they shouldn't have kids. three more dependent on the government ought to warm your heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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