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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 01:31 PM)
That actually sounds like a pretty good deal for the Brew Crew IMO.

Do they legitimately think they have a chance to be competitive in the NL Central next year with the Pirates, Cardinals, and Reds all in that division? I mean they get Braun back, but do they have something else useful coming down the pipeline this year?

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 01:21 PM)
Do they legitimately think they have a chance to be competitive in the NL Central next year with the Pirates, Cardinals, and Reds all in that division? I mean they get Braun back, but do they have something else useful coming down the pipeline this year?

 

If Mark Reynolds and Lyle Overbay can combine for 1 WAR, they will have added 5 wins to that team. They were the only team in baseball last year with a worse situation at 1B than the Sox.

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 02:27 PM)
If Mark Reynolds and Lyle Overbay can combine for 1 WAR, they will have added 5 wins to that team. They were the only team in baseball last year with a worse situation at 1B than the Sox.

That was a 74 win team though. Add in another 2 for Braun back for the full year perhaps and they still need something big to happen to be a competitive team? Do they have that? Serious Q I don't know their roster?

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 01:29 PM)
That was a 74 win team though. Add in another 2 for Braun back for the full year perhaps and they still need something big to happen to be a competitive team? Do they have that? Serious Q I don't know their roster?

 

That's all context neutral though. They also blew like a million saves too,

 

Honestly, with a bit of luck, I think most teams are 85-90 win teams.

 

Just for demonstration's sake though, 74 + 5 is 79, plus Braun's additional 2, plus a 4 WAR season from Garza and you're looking at an 85 context-neutral win team.

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 01:52 PM)
That's all context neutral though. They also blew like a million saves too,

 

Honestly, with a bit of luck, I think most teams are 85-90 win teams.

 

Just for demonstration's sake though, 74 + 5 is 79, plus Braun's additional 2, plus a 4 WAR season from Garza and you're looking at an 85 context-neutral win team.

 

The last couple years I think the Brewers have had some horrendous bullpen work with just some crushing blown saves. Shore that up, their rotation is Gallardo, Garza, Lohse, Wily Peralta, and Marco Estrada. Nothing over powering, but if the last two guys keep improving, contending for the wild card isn't out of the question.

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 04:37 PM)
The last couple years I think the Brewers have had some horrendous bullpen work with just some crushing blown saves. Shore that up, their rotation is Gallardo, Garza, Lohse, Wily Peralta, and Marco Estrada. Nothing over powering, but if the last two guys keep improving, contending for the wild card isn't out of the question.

Here's some appropriate skepticism as well. Their SP were 28th in MLB last year in WAR. Garza helps that, but even to be competitive, they're counting on big improvements from other guys in their rotation as well as guys like Gomez not regressing in the least and other unnamed guys contributing to their lineup more.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 06:47 PM)
Here's some appropriate skepticism as well. Their SP were 28th in MLB last year in WAR. Garza helps that, but even to be competitive, they're counting on big improvements from other guys in their rotation as well as guys like Gomez not regressing in the least and other unnamed guys contributing to their lineup more.

Garza deal is not done yet according to reports.

 

 

The Milwaukee Brewers have reported that contract negotiations with Matt Garza are "ongoing" and there is "no deal yet."

 

FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reported earlier Thursday that the Brewers agreed to sign Garza to a four-year, $52 million contract. It's highly unusual for a team to comment on a deal before it's finalized, but that's exactly what the Brewers did via their Twitter account. Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel and MLB.com's Adam McCalvy are hearing the holdup isn't due to a medical issue, so it sounds like we should have a resolution soon.

 

Per Rotoworld

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 27, 2014 -> 11:30 AM)
It seems fair, I just don't know why it's the Brewers doing it.

 

It makes sense to me, but I'm not sure I can fully explain why. First, I don't think they are in a position to go on an all-out Astros type rebuild. They built a lot of strides with their fanbase with their postseason trips, and while they lost some with the recent slump and Braun stuff, I think they need to keep them interested in the team. They most likely won't win the Central, but they aren't devoid of talent, and if some things go their way, maybe they compete for the 2nd wild card and stay in the hunt, which matters for a team like Milwaukee. Plus, the length/value won't ever be crippling. While Garza is an injury risk, he also seems consistent enough that he won't suddenly have a 5.00 ERA like Ubaldo might.

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Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 2h

 

 

Garza has complex 5th-yr '18 option: It's #Brewers opt at $5M, but becomes $1M if he spends 130 DL days in 183-pd for various injuries (con)

But Garza can vest at $13M if 1. 110g during contract plus 2. not on DL at end of '17 regular season plus 3. 115 ip in '17. #Brewers

 

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