royoung Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 11, 2014 -> 01:11 PM) I think a lot of Sox fans are underplaying the type of prospect Dylan Cease is. His stock fell of a bit right before the draft but this guy was once considered a surefire 1st rounder. I don't love the Cubs strategy and would have taken Nola or Jackson #4, but I wouldn't be surprised if it works for them. I know Epstein has became a rag doll of sorts recently, but he's always been great in the draft. Originally I scoffed at what they did, but after thinking about it, it makes a lot of sense. It's basically playing the system and increasing your odds of hitting on more quality prospects. While I love the Sox first two picks, it seems like it was a bunch of "meh" after that, especially since it seems highly unlikely we sign Montes de Oca. If Rodon and Adams hit their ceiling nobody will care of course, but just seems like a lot riding on those two arms. I am looking forward to seeing the Cubs and Sox 2014 draft class develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) Arrieta's FIP is 2.58 Edited June 12, 2014 by Buehrle>Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 12, 2014 -> 10:23 AM) Arrieta's FIP is 2.58 I stand corrected. Still think he's about to get bombed. Every time I see him, he's leaving the bases loaded with multiple lineouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Arrieta dominating again tonight. Seems like the hit on both their big trades last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 07:58 PM) Arrieta dominating again tonight. Seems like the hit on both their big trades last year. Do you think they will put up a banner for that? "Trade Deadline Champion 2013" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 07:48 PM) Do you think they will put up a banner for that? "Trade Deadline Champion 2013" The Ayn Rand/Galt Banner for Capitalism in their fight for economic determinism with the rooftop owners will look nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 09:35 PM) The Ayn Rand/Galt Banner for Capitalism in their fight for economic determinism with the rooftop owners will look nice. Just hang a 40 foot flag directly blocking a rooftop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 So the Cubs got a reliever who walks 4.2/9, Mike Olt, and an A-baller with a bad shoulder and they "won" the trade? I'd say they need more time to declare that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 08:59 PM) So the Cubs got a reliever who walks 4.2/9, Mike Olt, and an A-baller with a bad shoulder and they "won" the trade? I'd say they need more time to declare that What is Olt doing these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 03:59 AM) So the Cubs got a reliever who walks 4.2/9, Mike Olt, and an A-baller with a bad shoulder and they "won" the trade? I'd say they need more time to declare that Ramirez has been incredible so far as a reliever. It will be interesting to see who ends up being better, Montas or Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 10:03 PM) What is Olt doing these days? 140 MLB at-bats: .150/.233/.364 vs. LHP: .195/.283/.561 vs. RHP: .131/.212/.283 So he's been a worse Adam Dunn vs. lefties and completely worthless vs righties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 09:11 PM) Ramirez has been incredible so far as a reliever. It will be interesting to see who ends up being better, Montas or Edwards. Wasn't Grimm part of that trade? Or that was Garza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 10:21 PM) Wasn't Grimm part of that trade? Or that was Garza? Grimm, Ramirez, Edwards and Olt was all the Garza deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 The Cubs have talked with multiple teams about trades involving ace Jeff Samardzija and veteran starter Jason Hammel http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/chicago-cubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/beating-phi...&ocid=yahoo Part of the Cubs' plan coming together with Rizzo, Castro, Wood, Ramirez, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 09:59 PM) So the Cubs got a reliever who walks 4.2/9, Mike Olt, and an A-baller with a bad shoulder and they "won" the trade? I'd say they need more time to declare that They got 4 quality pieces for a 1/2 season rental. It was a great trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 10:11 PM) Ramirez has been incredible so far as a reliever. It will be interesting to see who ends up being better, Montas or Edwards. People were incredibly high on Edwards last year. MLB had him as the #34 overall prospect, which is insane in my opinion. I've never seen anyone project him as more than a #2-3 and that's if he can stay healthy with his small frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Nothing wrong with the trades the Cubs made, but they weren't franchise movers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 1m Sources: Cubs telling teams they are willing to listen to offers for starting pitchers Samardzija, Hammel, E. Jackson and Arrieta. (more) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco1997 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 16, 2014 -> 04:31 PM) Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 1m Sources: Cubs telling teams they are willing to listen to offers for starting pitchers Samardzija, Hammel, E. Jackson and Arrieta. (more) Haha, good luck with that, Theo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Cubs draft strategy is looking pretty sound. They signed 4th rnder HS LHP Carson Sands for $1.1 million and HS LHP Justin Steele (5th rounder) for $1 million. They will most likely sign Dylan Cease as well. Adding Stinnett, Case, Steele, and Sands while drafting Schwarber is a nice haul and a great way of spreading resources around. I love what the Sox did but going under slot for a potential fast moving college bat has allowed the Cubs to give $1 million bonuses to top 100 high school guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Cubs talking multiyear extension Samardzija http://www.suntimes.com/sports/28123847-41...-extension.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 QUOTE (whtsoxfan @ Jun 17, 2014 -> 04:37 PM) Cubs talking multiyear extension Samardzija http://www.suntimes.com/sports/28123847-41...-extension.html Translation: No one wants to pay Theo's price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I thought that was me who posted that, which freaked me out a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'm gonna say Kyle Schwarber is a little too good for the Northwest League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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