knightni Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 24, 2014 -> 10:49 AM) Yeah that's pretty impossible to know at this point. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/9558/ Player Notes CSN Chicago's Patrick Mooney reports that the Cubs have had internal discussions about moving third base prospect Kris Bryant to right field. Advice: Bryant is, at best, an adequate defensive third baseman, but the Cubs are content to leave him there for now. However, a position switch to right field could eventually come. "He can do it," general manager Jed Hoyer said of moving Bryant to the outfield. "He played center in college, and he's played right. He feels good out there. The biggest focus for him right now is he's working on his defense. He is almost 6-6, and with that the fundamentals of playing third base are more challenging. In the future, I would never say never that we wouldn't put him out there. But right now, our focus is third." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Not sure that you can conclude how their future infield will be set up based on internal discussions of "possibly moving" Kris Bryant to RF "some day." This is nothing to say for trades or busts or anything of the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) It's far from a sure thing that Castro would deal well with the position change to 3B without moping and 2) whether he would be the same player offensively (2014 version, at least) if his defense started going south. Granted, power numbers are way down for MLB 3B, and there's almost as much of a lack there as at catcher, but moving Castro seems like a recipe for disaster. They would probably be better off moving him to a team who wants to keep him at SS for pitching. And Alcantara playing CF is just like Alexei Ramirez. Far from a finished product. Edited July 24, 2014 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 For all intents and purposes, the numbers are now interchangeable between 2B and 3B regarding offensive output where years ago it used to be that 3B was just a step below 1B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Wouldn't Baez at 3B and Russell/Castro (choose the better defender to stick at SS) in the middle infield make the most sense? Edited July 24, 2014 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 C Todd Hundley 1B Hee Sop Choi 2b Bobby Hill SS Shawn Dunston 3B Josh Vitters RF Felix Pie CF Corey Patterson LF Alfonso Soriano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 24, 2014 -> 06:21 PM) C Todd Hundley 1B Hee Sop Choi 2b Bobby Hill SS Shawn Dunston 3B Josh Vitters RF Felix Pie CF Corey Patterson LF Alfonso Soriano AND THIS THREAD IS OVA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 24, 2014 -> 05:21 PM) C Todd Hundley 1B Hee Sop Choi 2b Bobby Hill SS Shawn Dunston 3B Josh Vitters RF Felix Pie CF Corey Patterson LF Alfonso Soriano How is Soriano there? Maybe Brant Brown, Brett Jackson, Jerome Walton or Dwight Smith. You could also add Kevin Orie and Gary Scott at 3B. Dunston didn't live up to his billing, but he was a fine MLB SS, if an inconsistent offensive contributor. Nobody had a better arm for that position in my memory. Geo Soto completely imploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 24, 2014 -> 06:29 PM) How is Soriano there? Maybe Brant Brown, Brett Jackson, Jerome Walton or Dwight Smith. You could also add Kevin Orie and Gary Scott at 3B. Dunston didn't live up to his billing, but he was a fine MLB SS, if an inconsistent offensive contributor. Nobody had a better arm for that position in my memory. Geo Soto completely imploded. Well you need some veteran leadership in that lineup full of youngsters. And Dunston was the man, Wrigley is just a better place with the Shawon-O-Meter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 24, 2014 -> 06:21 PM) C Todd Hundley 1B Hee Sop Choi 2b Bobby Hill SS Shawn Dunston 3B Josh Vitters RF Felix Pie CF Corey Patterson LF Alfonso Soriano Boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 24, 2014 -> 06:21 PM) C Todd Hundley 1B Hee Sop Choi 2b Bobby Hill SS Shawn Dunston 3B Josh Vitters RF Felix Pie CF Corey Patterson LF Alfonso Soriano You can do the same with the sox , at the top of my head:C-Olivo 2b-Beckham3b-fieldsOf-AndersonOf-borchardOf-SweeneyOf-reedNot going to even mention the failed pitchers lol Prospects=suspects, they don't ALL pan out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jul 24, 2014 -> 10:27 PM) You can do the same with the sox , at the top of my head:C-Olivo 2b-Beckham3b-fieldsOf-AndersonOf-borchardOf-SweeneyOf-reedNot going to even mention the failed pitchers lol Prospects=suspects, they don't ALL pan out Yes, but we never sold our fanbase on a team of ONLY those and have ALL of our hopes ride on those. Example: Reed, Olivo, Borchard, and Sweeney, B-Mac, Chris Young, and Dan Hudson were all traded to upgrade the MLB roster while Cubs fans would go nuts if any of their precious prospects were traded. Not saying Sox fans wouldn't, because this board sure does, but so far Gio is really the only one that got away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jul 24, 2014 -> 10:27 PM) You can do the same with the sox , at the top of my head:C-Olivo 2b-Beckham3b-fieldsOf-AndersonOf-borchardOf-SweeneyOf-reedNot going to even mention the failed pitchers lol Prospects=suspects, they don't ALL pan out Yes, but the difference is that the Sox didn't buy into their lineup ever looking like that. Right around the time our lineup was going to shape up like that, it looked totally different and we won a World Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) If you go back to that 2000-2001 Class, it would have looked something like this... Kip Wells Garland Rauch Biddle Barcelo Stumm Fogg Myette Parque Buehrle Beirne Matt Ginter Crede...B.Anderson (later)...Chris Young....Olivo....J.Reed....Anthony Webster...Rowand...Borchard...B.McCarthy (later) Edited July 25, 2014 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Oh man, I forgot all about Josh Vitters. His case is the exact reason I could not possibly care less about prospect rankings. BP had him #45 pre 2008, #41 pre 2009, and #35 pre 2010 without the tiniest logical explanation as to why. BA had him 43, 51, and 70 too so they don't go without blame. His line this year you ask? .205/.263/.329/.592 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Although the chances of this actually happening are incredibly tiny, it is nuts to think the Cubs could have 3 40+ HR guys in the middle of their lineup in Bryant, Schwarber and Baez. That's not even counting Rizzo. Baez looks like the most likely to bust. He seems an all-or-nothing type -- either he's an 8-time all star or he doesn't even stick in the majors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (farmteam @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 10:08 AM) Although the chances of this actually happening are incredibly tiny, it is nuts to think the Cubs could have 3 40+ HR guys in the middle of their lineup in Bryant, Schwarber and Baez. That's not even counting Rizzo. Baez looks like the most likely to bust. He seems an all-or-nothing type -- either he's an 8-time all star or he doesn't even stick in the majors. Let's not get too amped up over Schwarber yet. Incredibly small sample size (which, frankly, his A- and A trips were too), but he's been far less impressive at A+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (farmteam @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 10:08 AM) Although the chances of this actually happening are incredibly tiny, it is nuts to think the Cubs could have 3 40+ HR guys in the middle of their lineup in Bryant, Schwarber and Baez. That's not even counting Rizzo. Baez looks like the most likely to bust. He seems an all-or-nothing type -- either he's an 8-time all star or he doesn't even stick in the majors. I've read a couple people on here think Baez could bust. He's 1 year older than Courtney Hawkins and really starting to pick it up in AAA. If he was a White Sox prospect, I doubt there would be bust talk, but rather Jose Abreu protection. I hope he busts, but I think it's really unlikely. I think he's a sure-fire major leaguer whose floor as long as he doesn't get hurt, is an average hitter. Edited July 25, 2014 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (farmteam @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 10:08 AM) Although the chances of this actually happening are incredibly tiny, it is nuts to think the Cubs could have 3 40+ HR guys in the middle of their lineup in Bryant, Schwarber and Baez. That's not even counting Rizzo. Baez looks like the most likely to bust. He seems an all-or-nothing type -- either he's an 8-time all star or he doesn't even stick in the majors. Just like Abreu, Avi, Hawkins, Davidson, and Viciedo, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 10:12 AM) Let's not get too amped up over Schwarber yet. Incredibly small sample size (which, frankly, his A- and A trips were too), but he's been far less impressive at A+. I will readily admit I overhype Schwarber solely because I watched him at Indiana. The kid can flat out hit. But you're right, it's still a small sample size and it's a hell of a long way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 10:15 AM) Just like Abreu, Avi, Hawkins, Davidson, and Viciedo, right? Outside of Abreu, I don't think any of those guys were expected to have the Baez/Bryant/Schwarber power tool. More like 30-HR range at peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (farmteam @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 10:18 AM) Outside of Abreu, I don't think any of those guys were expected to have the Baez/Bryant/Schwarber power tool. More like 30-HR range at peak. Hawkins has that power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 10:15 AM) I've read a couple people on here think Baez could bust. He's 1 year older than Courtney Hawkins and really starting to pick it up in AAA. If he was a White Sox prospect, I doubt there would be bust talk, but rather Jose Abreu protection. I hope he busts, but I think it's really unlikely. I think he's a sure-fire major leaguer whose floor as long as he doesn't get hurt, is an average hitter. Why? A good chunk of Soxtalk has already deemed Hawkins a bust and quit on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 10:21 AM) Hawkins has that power. And supposedly Avi has more than Abreu. Viciedo when he was a prospect was seen as a 40 HR guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 1h The #Cubs have zero interest in trading for #Rays David Price now, #Cubs executive says, wanting to hang onto their prized prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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