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Billy Butler is getting killed by Royals fans on twitter. Funny, I thought that little dribbler was going to get ruled a hit. Guess it was an egregious error. The fans are attacking Butler cause things went south after the error.

Of course some of the same fans have been screaming Yost better dare not use Hosmer at first once he returns and not mess with Butler. LOL.

Like Roy Williams once said when he was Kansas coach, "The only way to shut everybody up is to win." A variation of Al Davis' Just.Win.Baby.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 1, 2014 -> 05:40 AM)
How can they move a Royals' home game to CLE for the bottom of the 10th? That's very unusual.

Great point, Caufield. I would think if Cleveland had an off day Monday they'd have stayed in KC and played it before the KC-Texas game. No such luck though for KC.

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 11:33 PM)
Royals Indians game suspended, to be resumed Sept 22 in Cleveland. The division race just got more interesting

 

When looking at the standings the next three weeks, remember that the Indians have one more win, and the Royals have one more loss...probably.

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Justin Verlander's starting today, FYI.

 

Wonder how he'll do with all the public scrutiny and humiliation. Knowing the Tigers' announcers, they would never dare bring it up, other than saying something generic about "outside distractions" or the like.

 

 

Felix Hernandez and Jon Lester as well in a key game for both teams out West.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 08:42 AM)
Justin Verlander's starting today, FYI.

 

Wonder how he'll do with all the public scrutiny and humiliation. Knowing the Tigers' announcers, they would never dare bring it up, other than saying something generic about "outside distractions" or the like.

Felix Hernandez and Jon Lester as well in a key game for both teams out West.

 

seriously, there are not many home team announcers that are gonna bring that up. What the heck are they gonna say? "Hey did you see those leaked naked pics of Verlander and Upton?"

 

They arent up there to discuss things like that, and "outside distractions" is probably a good thing for them to keep it at

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 08:58 AM)
seriously, there are not many home team announcers that are gonna bring that up. What the heck are they gonna say? "Hey did you see those leaked naked pics of Verlander and Upton?"

 

They arent up there to discuss things like that, and "outside distractions" is probably a good thing for them to keep it at

 

It's not like he did anything wrong or illegal. He took naked pics with female companions in private, which some of his teammates may have possibly done too. It just so happens his female companion is a world famous model, so some internet people decided to hack into those photos. There's nothing really to talk about it or criticize.

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http://www.freep.com/article/20140904/COL08/309040066/

 

Detroit columnist addresses the impact of the photo hack/leak on Justin Verlander and the Tigers' season.

 

 

Taking some really pointed comments from the fans in the comments section...not one supporter that I can see. Lots of jealousy, though.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 4, 2014 -> 09:13 AM)
http://www.freep.com/article/20140904/COL08/309040066/

 

Detroit columnist addresses the impact of the photo hack/leak on Justin Verlander and the Tigers' season.

 

 

Taking some really pointed comments from the fans in the comments section...not one supporter that I can see. Lots of jealousy, though.

 

There is no impact, Verlander was terrible before the leak, and looks to be terrible after the leak. The rest of the team isn't going to stop playing baseball because Verlander was shown standing naked next to Upton.

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QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 4, 2014 -> 09:21 AM)
People fail to realize Verlander was injured this past offseason and may not have been fully healed or back to 100% the entire season.

 

 

Everyone in Detroit knows he had the now infamous "core (abdominal) muscle repair" surgery in the offseason.

 

It's just hard to determine if the performance dip is related to that (at all) or 100% about Leyland putting too much wear and tear on his arm from 2006-2012.

 

One can at least imagine he's not getting enough drive and whip from his torso....we all know everything's connected, that a lot of Verlander's fastball comes from leg drive, which is related to your abdominal muscles flexing as well.

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Royals getting owned by Detroit again. Detroit has won 11 of 15 this year vs. KC.

Royals are trying to ride their excellent defense and pitching into the playoffs. Thing is, KC's offense is so putrid (nobody walks; nobody ever homers) it is putting the postseason in jeopardy.

Can defense and pitching win out as the cliche says? Or do you need some hitting too?

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 10:03 PM)
Royals getting owned by Detroit again. Detroit has won 11 of 15 this year vs. KC.

Royals are trying to ride their excellent defense and pitching into the playoffs. Thing is, KC's offense is so putrid (nobody walks; nobody ever homers) it is putting the postseason in jeopardy.

Can defense and pitching win out as the cliche says? Or do you need some hitting too?

 

 

Shields really needs to earn him "Big Game" moniker tomorrow against Porcello to stop the bleeding.

 

He definitely showed up against the Yankees in his last start.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 12:58 AM)
Shields really needs to earn him "Big Game" moniker tomorrow against Porcello to stop the bleeding.

 

He definitely showed up against the Yankees in his last start.

 

And the Mariners are only 0.5 game back for the 2nd wild card spot, so a postseason big in general is in jeopardy. Time for "Big Game" to step it up I guess.

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 05:23 AM)
And the Mariners are only 0.5 game back for the 2nd wild card spot, so a postseason big in general is in jeopardy. Time for "Big Game" to step it up I guess.

 

 

Royals just haven't gotten enough offense their last 20....

 

They had that huge 24-6 run but they've been going along around 2-3 games under .500 now for the last month since they took over 1st.

 

 

 

And their bullpen's getting worn down into the ground, as they can't use Davis/Escobar/Holland every single game that's tied or where they have a lead.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 05:58 AM)
Shields really needs to earn him "Big Game" moniker tomorrow against Porcello to stop the bleeding.

 

He definitely showed up against the Yankees in his last start.

 

Yeah. I laughed at the many talk shows out here saying Shields doesn't deserve to pitch the "big games" that may await the Royals still the rest of the season/postseason. They want Duffy (before injury) and Vargas. How stupid. After the Tigers game I'm sure the fans are back heavy on the Shields is god bandwagon, however.

 

It's interesting how Butler has been benched of late. It's obvious he'll be on another team next year. Would the Sox want him as another base-clogger for 7 million a year, three years? Granted he may be finished. It'd be a risk but you could probably get him cheap. He's definitely a bounceback candidate with a new organization, unless like I said, he may be finished at a relatively young baseball age. Sox do not have a DH candidate right now with any pop. Of course Butler is more a doubles guy as he's never elevated consistently.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 02:59 AM)
We'll probably end up with Raul Ibanez or Carlos Pena.

Yikes.

Somebody will probably give Butler 10 million a year which would be crazy. It is interesting though. If it's 7 mill a year, three years; 21 mill total, would the Sox take the risk at DH? You'd have a heart of the order lineup of Eaton, Lexi, A. Garcia, Abreu and Butler as your first five hitters in the order. There are probably worse five-somes in baseball for sure.

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Royals have forgotten how to play defense (except last night) over the last week.

 

Hosmer with 10 errors and missing quite a bit of the season, when he won the GG? Moustakas and Escobar are also players who are close to Gold Glove caliber. Can't give teams like the Red Sox, even without Pedroia, 2 runs when your offense is struggling to score.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 04:32 AM)
Royals have forgotten how to play defense (except last night) over the last week.

 

Hosmer with 10 errors and missing quite a bit of the season, when he won the GG? Moustakas and Escobar are also players who are close to Gold Glove caliber. Can't give teams like the Red Sox, even without Pedroia, 2 runs when your offense is struggling to score.

 

Should be interesting. This Butler thing can't be good for in-team morale. He needs to play. It's not like he is putting up totally anemic numbers. Not great, but he was hot during their hot streak.

Something tells me KC fans are going to be disappointed. They'll lose the division to Detroit by a game or two and lose the wildcard by a game or two. Cleveland isn't out of it yet, either.

Can't see Ned coming back if KC doesn't win the division. It'll be another rebuilding year next year without Shields and Butler. Guthrie and Vargas can go south at any time. Poor KC.

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