southsider2k5 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 see more at link http://southsideshowdown.com/2013/11/19/ru...ons-coming-due/ Brandon Jacobs & Trayce Thompson – OF Two high school draftees that have been around for a while and have name recognition, but it would take a lot of liquor, and then some sadism, for anyone to submit these two to major league pitching after the seasons they just finished at Double-A. Hysterical contact issues for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 There really isn't anyone in the Sox system not on the 40-man roster that I'd be concerned could go in the major league portion of the draft. There are some AA guys who I could see going in the AAA phase (Thompson and Jacobs, as well as Wilkins, Black and a few others), if they aren't on the AAA reserve list. But I'd imagine all of them are on those large reserve lists, so I don't see it happening anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 SSS version http://www.southsidesox.com/minors/2013/11...draft-decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I forgot about Carlos Sanchez - he I would worry about maybe getting picked up, though still not a strong likelihood. But he is too important to leave unprotected. I'd definitely add him to the 40, possibly Thompson and Jacobs too. Drop Mike McDade. The 40 man is 36 right now, my moves would make it 36 to 38. Drop Heath and it is 35/37. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian310 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Sanchez was bad last year so it's pretty unlikely that any team will award him an MLB roster spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 QUOTE (chisoxfan310 @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 01:40 PM) Sanchez was bad last year so it's pretty unlikely that any team will award him an MLB roster spot. I think someone would pick him up. Quick, versatile, middle infielder with good bat control who is super young? I think he'd be gone in a second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 03:07 PM) I think someone would pick him up. Quick, versatile, middle infielder with good bat control who is super young? I think he'd be gone in a second. But to keep on their big league roster for the full year? That's a stretch to me. Maybe the fact that he could be a utility guy would help, but putting him on the big league roster at age 22 when he clearly needs AAA level at bats would seem like a pretty poor move by any team that claimed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 02:08 PM) But to keep on their big league roster for the full year? That's a stretch to me. Maybe the fact that he could be a utility guy would help, but putting him on the big league roster at age 22 when he clearly needs AAA level at bats would seem like a pretty poor move by any team that claimed him. For a team like the Astros or Marlins? I don't think it'd be that big of a deal. If you think his ceiling is, say, .300/.350/.400 and he can play a serviceable 2B or SS in the future, you can stash him as a 2B/SS/3B utility guy and let him struggle to the tune of a .225/.275/.300 season so long as he's getting ABs and getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 02:15 PM) For a team like the Astros or Marlins? I don't think it'd be that big of a deal. If you think his ceiling is, say, .300/.350/.400 and he can play a serviceable 2B or SS in the future, you can stash him as a 2B/SS/3B utility guy and let him struggle to the tune of a .225/.275/.300 season so long as he's getting ABs and getting better. Yeah, those teams would definitely be a threat to take him. There seems to be plenty of room on the 40 man. I just wonder how good someone really can be at this point if they can't basically "make" the White Sox 40 man. Also if Hahn is making trades, you would think there could be some 2 for 1 s or 3 for 2s opening up a space. Maybe he pulls the trigger on something and makes some more room that way. Edited November 19, 2013 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Chances are Sanchez gets MLB reps next year with an injury or movement. That means somebody very well may be willing to use him as a utility man as well, since we would do that under certain circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian310 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Is he even eligible to be taken in the Rule 5 draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 03:42 PM) For argument's sake, if we went into next year with the infield as is (Beckham-Alexei-Gillaspinger), aside from Semien, Sanchez has to be the next guy that gets the nod as far as infielders. You're forgetting Leury Garcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 08:53 PM) I wasn't. If Garcia had to start at 2B Sanchez would assume his bench role. Ahh, I thought you meant nod as starter after Semien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 If we sign a young guy in DR at, say, age 16, and he doesn't play anywhere for two years, then he starts playing in DR at age 18, when does the Rule V clock start running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Carlos Sanchez is indeed eligible. The rules are about when you sign, at what age, and when the Rule V draft occurs. If a player is signed at 18 or younger, they get to "skip" 4 Rule V drafts, and are eligible in the 5th. For Sanchez, he signed in 2009 at 17. There were Rule V drafts he "skipped" in 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012. Now in 2013 he is eligible. For players signed at 19 or older, it is "skip" 3 and eligible on the 4th. Also remember, people are focused on the major league portion here - where a player would have to be taken (paid for) and kept on the 25 man roster for the full season at the major league level. There are also AAA and AA phases, where players are occasionally taken - but teams can protect their guys on "reserve lists" for AAA and AA, which have about 35 guys on each. Guys like Sanchez, Thompson, Jacobs, heck even Wilkins or Black types, will be on those reserve lists. So they can be taken in the major league portion, but not the minor league phases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger2004 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I just looked at the Sox 40 man roster and found a few names that could be gone....Brent Morel {please}, Blake Tekotte {Minor League roster filler at best},Frank De Los Santos and please, please dump Dylan Axelrod {I can't watch him pitch one more inning without throwing up!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (midway @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 11:59 AM) I just looked at the Sox 40 man roster and found a few names that could be gone....Brent Morel {please}, Blake Tekotte {Minor League roster filler at best},Frank De Los Santos and please, please dump Dylan Axelrod {I can't watch him pitch one more inning without throwing up!!! There's no need to get rid of Dylan Axelrod at this point. He might be the 7th or 8th best option in the rotation right now and the 10th or 11th best in the bullpen, but he's an arm with MLB experience that they can still stash in the minors. If they need a quick call up for a spot start, he makes the most sense of any player in the organization right now. Also, the Sox just acquired Frank De Los Santos. I doubt he's going anywhere at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 If you care about such things, MLBTR is updating all teams here as they come in... http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/11/play...man-roster.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (midway @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 11:59 AM) I just looked at the Sox 40 man roster and found a few names that could be gone....Brent Morel {please}, Blake Tekotte {Minor League roster filler at best},Frank De Los Santos and please, please dump Dylan Axelrod {I can't watch him pitch one more inning without throwing up!!! The Sox aren't going to dump people just because they are unpopular with teh fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger2004 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 10:23 AM) The Sox aren't going to dump people just because they are unpopular with teh fans. It was wishful thinking on my part.....thank God I never see anyone bashing Dunn, ADA or Flowers on this board!! Maybe they can trade the Axe for something, anything, lol!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (midway @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 12:30 PM) It was wishful thinking on my part.....thank God I never see anyone bashing Dunn, ADA or Flowers on this board!! Maybe they can trade the Axe for something, anything, lol!! People can bash all they want. But if a franchise is making moves based on what fans feel is desirable, they need to be contracted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 https://twitter.com/BenBadler/status/403245225176358912 Carlos Sanchez being added. Not sure if this means he's the only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 https://twitter.com/BenBadler/status/403245225176358912 Carlos Sanchez being added. Not sure if this means he's the only one. Also Trayce Thompson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/403252792615112704 Anybody know anything about Elmore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Good see Thompson and Sanchez. Wonder if Jacobs and Wilkins get added? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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