Eminor3rd Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 02:07 PM) https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/403252792615112704 Anybody know anything about Elmore? I BELIEVE the book on him is decent bat, no glove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 02:09 PM) Good see Thompson and Sanchez. Wonder if Jacobs and Wilkins get added? The beat writers are all tweeting about Sanchez, Thompson, and Elmore, so that's probably it for additions today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 02:07 PM) https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/403252792615112704 Anybody know anything about Elmore? Looks like a future utility player with an outside chance to start. Not a lot of power, but good bat control and good eye at the plate. A little bit of speed. Had a phenomenal season in 2012 with Arizona's AAA team, but much of that was due to a .344 average. In 2400+ minor league plate appearances, he has 17 home runs. In the majors he played primarily SS, but made at least one appearance at every single position this year with the Astros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 03:24 PM) Guys with no power and no defensive ability have little chance of starting. He sounds like a dead-broke man's Keppinger to me. Fixed it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 03:07 PM) https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/403252792615112704 Anybody know anything about Elmore? Looks like the thing that stands out most about him is that he played every position last year, including pitcher and catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 02:24 PM) Guys with no power and no defensive ability have little chance of starting. He sounds like a poor man's Keppinger to me. don't tell Pods! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 The Elmore move seems... odd. There is really only one area of position players the Sox org has some signifncant talent depth, you've got one too many infielders on the MLB team already, plus Leury Garcia, Marcus Semien and Carlos Sanchez. And guys like Anderson and Johnson in the lower minors. But we are claiming Elmore? Just as word that we were after Johnson for pitching depth indicates something, I keep thinking this also indicates something, like we are also likely to trade an infielder or two. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 03:54 PM) The Elmore move seems... odd. There is really only one area of position players the Sox org has some signifncant talent depth, you've got one too many infielders on the MLB team already, plus Leury Garcia, Marcus Semien and Carlos Sanchez. And guys like Anderson and Johnson in the lower minors. But we are claiming Elmore? Just as word that we were after Johnson for pitching depth indicates something, I keep thinking this also indicates something, like we are also likely to trade an infielder or two. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. I think there's some smoke here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Elmore sounds like a great Charlotte player, terrible Chicago player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 03:54 PM) The Elmore move seems... odd. There is really only one area of position players the Sox org has some signifncant talent depth, you've got one too many infielders on the MLB team already, plus Leury Garcia, Marcus Semien and Carlos Sanchez. And guys like Anderson and Johnson in the lower minors. But we are claiming Elmore? Just as word that we were after Johnson for pitching depth indicates something, I keep thinking this also indicates something, like we are also likely to trade an infielder or two. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. Maybe, but if Konerko comes back, they probably need someone who can play the infield and the outfield. This could be sprimg training competition for Leury Garcia. Edited November 20, 2013 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 05:21 PM) Maybe, but if Konerko comes back, they probably need someone who can play the infield and the outfield. This could be sprimg training competition for Leury Garcia. Or maybe L Garcia gets traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 06:28 PM) Or maybe L Garcia gets traded. Why they'd do that I have absolutely no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Perhaps Elmore is a way to have a utility infielder while allowing the likes of Semien and Garcia to get everyday AB's in AAA? I'd rather not see a young infielder on the bench only getting a few AB's a week this year. Edited November 20, 2013 by TheFutureIsNear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo880 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Could this mean we are trying to find a taker for Kepp and Elmore takes his spot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 QUOTE (kevo880 @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 06:20 PM) Could this mean we are trying to find a taker for Kepp and Elmore takes his spot? That makes a lot of sense actually. Although, then the Sox really don't have a veteran presence off the bench. IDK if that is necessarily important, but I'm not sure how I feel of a bunch of young players making up the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 04:35 PM) That makes a lot of sense actually. Although, then the Sox really don't have a veteran presence off the bench. IDK if that is necessarily important, but I'm not sure how I feel of a bunch of young players making up the bench. Carlos Sanchez is the 3rd leading hitter in the Venezeulan Winter League. .361 BA 119 AB 43 hits, 2 doubles, 2 triples, 1 HR, 13 BB , 20 K , .434 OBP , .437 SLG, .871 OPS http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?po...&pid=570560 Andy Wilkins there also doing well http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?po...&pid=519421 Edited November 21, 2013 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 07:34 PM) Carlos Sanchez is the 3rd leading hitter in the Venezeulan Winter League. .361 BA 119 AB 43 hits, 2 doubles, 2 triples, 1 HR, 13 BB , 20 K , .434 OBP , .437 SLG, .871 OPS http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?po...&pid=570560 Andy Wilkins there also doing well http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?po...&pid=519421 But Sanchez doesn't belong on the bench, he's still so young and needs to be playing everyday. And Wilkins is completely limited to 1B, which is the one position the Sox don't need at this point. I wouldn't be surprised to see Wilkins claimed in the Rule V, considering McGuiness got claimed last year with similar numbers. Anyone have any clue as to why McDade and Heath are still on the 40-man? You can't tell me the Sox can't find a better option than either of those two in the minor league FA pool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 06:45 PM) But Sanchez doesn't belong on the bench, he's still so young and needs to be playing everyday. And Wilkins is completely limited to 1B, which is the one position the Sox don't need at this point. I wouldn't be surprised to see Wilkins claimed in the Rule V, considering McGuiness got claimed last year with similar numbers. Anyone have any clue as to why McDade and Heath are still on the 40-man? You can't tell me the Sox can't find a better option than either of those two in the minor league FA pool... I only mention Sanchez because his season in the minors had many discouraged about him. I don't know the level of play in the Venezuelan League, perhaps it is High A or double AA and Sanchez is still primarily a singles hitter but nice to see him doing well and maybe he can rebound this season in the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 09:04 PM) I only mention Sanchez because his season in the minors had many discouraged about him. I don't know the level of play in the Venezuelan League, perhaps it is High A or double AA and Sanchez is still primarily a singles hitter but nice to see him doing well and maybe he can rebound this season in the minors. I never did understand all the discouraging opinions on Sanchez. He was barely 21 and in Triple-A. Who wouldn't expect him to struggle? It's nice to see him have a decent stat line though. I honestly have no clue either as to what the level of competition is compared to in the Venezuelan League, but I bet you are probably right with your assessment. I always think of him as a future Nick Punto-type player for the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Sanchez started last season in AAA at age 20, and he was the youngest player in his entire league on Opening Day. That after going up three levels the year before. Anything beyond completely embarrassing himself was a win. He's still a T10 prospect in this organization, and he needs every day AB's somewhere in 2014. I do wonder why Mike McDade is taking up a 40 man slot. I'd honestly rather have protected Wilkins, or even Dan Black, as opposed to a re-tread like McDade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayan024 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Rule 5 draft top players Says Whitesox might draft Astros Catcher Carlos Perez #3 overall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 QUOTE (dayan024 @ Nov 21, 2013 -> 01:28 PM) Rule 5 draft top players Says Whitesox might draft Astros Catcher Carlos Perez #3 overall Marco Paddy was the top scout in the Blue Jays system when Carlos Perez signed as a 19 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 QUOTE (dayan024 @ Nov 21, 2013 -> 01:28 PM) Rule 5 draft top players Says Whitesox might draft Astros Catcher Carlos Perez #3 overall Makes a ton of sense honestly. Carlos Perez, c, Astros: Perez passed through the Rule 5 draft last year, but there’s a greater chance someone might roll the dice on him this time. Perez could be a fit for a rebuilding team with an established everyday catcher like, well . . . the Astros. But given that Houston called up Max Stassi from Double-A and minor league veterans Cody Clark and Matt Pagnozzi late in the 2013 season, it wasn’t too much of a surprise that the Astros left Perez exposed. Perez, who turned 23 last month, is a dependable catcher who moves well behind the plate, blocks well and earns praise for how he handles a pitching staff. His arm is average and he gets rid of the ball quickly, helping him erase an impressive 47 percent of basestealers last year in Triple-A Oklahoma City. The question scouts have on Perez is his offense. His bat speed is below-average, he has minimal power and his swing can get long. But Perez doesn’t swing and miss much and he controls the strike zone, which helped him hit a respectable .269/.328/.345 with 25 walks and 39 strikeouts in 75 games in Triple-A. If the power develops, he could be an everyday catcher, but he should at least get a chance in a backup role. When Perez originally signed with the Blue Jays out of Venezuela at age 17, Marco Paddy was Toronto’s top scout in Latin America. Paddy now runs the White Sox’s international operations as a special assistant to the general manager, and with Tyler Flowers and Josh Phegley, the organization could look for additional depth. The White Sox have the third pick in the Rule 5 draft (and the Astros are at No. 1), so Perez could go off the board early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Hatley and Colvin are interesting. Colvin was a big prospect and needs a new set of eyes to fix him. Either of those guys could serve in the swing role this season and probably provide better value than the fillers that Hahn will have to sign to fill out the bullpen. Perez would be an upgrade defensively and its hard to imagine he could be much of a downgrade offensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 That leaves the Sox room to make a pick. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...rticle_64079778 CHICAGO -- The White Sox raised their 40-man roster total to 39 by purchasing the contracts of infielder Carlos Sanchez and outfielder Trayce Thompson from Triple-A Charlotte on Wednesday and claiming infielder Jake Elmore off of waivers from the Astros. Adding Sanchez and Thompson came before the 11 p.m. CT deadline Wednesday for setting the 40-man roster prior to the Rule 5 Draft scheduled for the last day of baseball's Winter Meetings in Orlando, Fla., on Dec. 12. Players first signed at age 18 must be added to 40-man rosters within five seasons or they become eligible to be drafted by other organizations through the Rule 5 process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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