cabiness42 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Tommy John still has the "record" for most wins post-surgery. Of course he does, otherwise they'd have to change the name of the surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 11:08 AM) Tommy John still has the "record" for most wins post-surgery. OK, I don't understand the point of this. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me? If you disagreeing, using the number of games he won is pretty terrible considering he probably holds the record for most losses too. He threw in 405 games and starter 382 after the surgery. He pitched a lot, which goes to show how effective it is as a surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Phillies are actively shopping Dominic Brown.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayan024 Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 12:06 PM) Phillies are actively shopping Dominic Brown.. MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 52s Phillies Actively Shopping Domonic Brown http://dlvr.it/4TLD4G #mlb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Santiago for Brown almost makes too much sense. Both players are young with upside, both have significant warts, and both are controllable thru 2017. The Phils need pitching and we need lefty bats. He's a lousy defender but so is our current option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (daggins @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 01:14 PM) Santiago for Brown almost makes too much sense. Both players are young with upside, both have significant warts, and both are controllable thru 2017. The Phils need pitching and we need lefty bats. He's a lousy defender but so is our current option. I'd rather have Santiago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Raise your hand if you've had enough of rumor talk. Now let's see if the Sox actually do something, in say, the next 56 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 01:11 PM) Raise your hand if you've had enough of rumor talk. Now let's see if the Sox actually do something, in say, the next 56 hours. I vote next 12 hours, I need some excitement to get me through 6 exams in the next 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Keep in mind with Dom Brown: this dude is literally a worse defensive LF than Dayan Viciedo. Just think about that. I'm not saying you definitely don't get him, but you're looking at a team with a bunch of corner OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 01:16 PM) Keep in mind with Dom Brown: this dude is literally a worse defensive LF than Dayan Viciedo. Just think about that. I'm not saying you definitely don't get him, but you're looking at a team with a bunch of corner OF. If we get rid of Dunn he could DH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 01:20 PM) If we get rid of Dunn he could DH Exactly my thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 02:16 PM) Keep in mind with Dom Brown: this dude is literally a worse defensive LF than Dayan Viciedo. Just think about that. I'm not saying you definitely don't get him, but you're looking at a team with a bunch of corner OF. His inability to hit lefties and take a walk concerns me as well. What his ceiling actually is needs to be discussed before trading a guy like Q for him. I would do my best to see if Amaro is dumb enough to trade Brown for something like Santiago, Jones, and De Aza. Unlikely, but that would be best case scenario for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 02:33 PM) That is a TERRIBLE trade for us. Just horrible. Lol how? We would be getting a guy who was a top 5 prospect in baseball 2 years ago and hit 27 home runs in his 1st season in the bigs. Would love to hear what you think it would take to get Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 05:34 PM) I know it would take a lot for Brown and I know the type of player he is so I don't want anything to do with trading for him. 25 year old lefty with 30 HR power for our #3 starter, a replaceable bull pen arm, and a CF who can't play CF that we all are trying to replace anyway is too much though? Are you just against trading a pitcher in general? If not what are you really expecting back in return for a guy like Santiago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayan024 Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien 58m White Sox were close to trading one of their pitchers but the other team chose to acquire a position player instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 04:39 PM) 25 year old lefty with 30 HR power for our #3 starter, a replaceable bull pen arm, and a CF who can't play CF that we all are trying to replace anyway is too much though? Are you just against trading a pitcher in general? If not what are you really expecting back in return for a guy like Santiago? I think Brown's incredibly overrated. He's good against righties, but much of that power came from one hot stretch. Outside of May, he hit 15 homers. That's also a very talented #3 starter with a lot of service time remaining, a good bullpen arm with a lot of service time remaining, and a CF who can, in fact, play CF but not particularly well for a left handed bat who can't play in the field and can't hit lefties. I can spin too. I'd start out by offering merely Santiago for Brown, straight up. I'd have a bit of wiggle room, but I would not give up 3 players for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (dayan024 @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 04:46 PM) Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien 58m White Sox were close to trading one of their pitchers but the other team chose to acquire a position player instead. Mere speculation, but I'm thinking this is the A's and Michael Choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 12:11 PM) Raise your hand if you've had enough of rumor talk. Now let's see if the Sox actually do something, in say, the next 56 hours. Hand raised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 04:49 PM) Mere speculation, but I'm thinking this is the A's and Michael Choice Or possibly whichever team is on the verge of acquiring LoMo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 05:47 PM) I think Brown's incredibly overrated. He's good against righties, but much of that power came from one hot stretch. Outside of May, he hit 15 homers. That's also a very talented #3 starter with a lot of service time remaining, a good bullpen arm with a lot of service time remaining, and a CF who can, in fact, play CF but not particularly well for a left handed bat who can't play in the field and can't hit lefties. I can spin too. I'd start out by offering merely Santiago for Brown, straight up. I'd have a bit of wiggle room, but I would not give up 3 players for him. I gave up 3 because I didn't care about the 2 of them and they kinda make sense for the Phillies. You'd seriously balk at a Brown trade because of De Aza? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 04:58 PM) I gave up 3 because I didn't care about the 2 of them and they kinda make sense for the Phillies. You'd seriously balk at a Brown trade because of De Aza? No because of Santiago and Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayan024 Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 04:54 PM) Or possibly whichever team is on the verge of acquiring LoMo. Maybe they had a deal lined up with the astros.... the astros did trade for Fowler and they did sign feldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 05:59 PM) No because of Santiago and Jones So I suppose young hitters are just going to fall into our laps? Gotta give up something to get something. Jones is replaceable anyway, you're really worried about him? Webb and Petricka could easily replace him next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Just judging by the text from Our Chuck and reading the latest on MLBtR I think we are waiting on AZ. They are trying to sign Choo and trade for a SP or apparently trading for Trumbo (Skaggs being a piece) and signing a FA SP. I think we are working with AZ with one of our SP. just my opinion. Here's the posts: 6:52pm: The Diamondbacks are in the hunt for Choo, according to Rosenthal (Twitter link). As we heard earlier, Arizona is also very much in the mix for Mark Trumbo, so as Rosenthal notes, it appears the club has several options, including trying to sign Choo and trade for a pitcher, or acquiring Trumbo and signing a free agent pitcher. Rosenthal adds in a second tweet that Texas and Arizona aren't necessarily the only two teams in on Choo. Other clubs are likely involved as well. 7:28pm: In their talks with the D-Backs, the Angels are primarily focused on Skaggs and Trevor Cahill, says Tim Brown of Yahoo! Sports (Twitter link). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Cahill and Skaggs for Trumbo and his .299 OBP? Holy s*** Kevin Towers is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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