Dunt Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I apologize if this is in the wrong area, but does anyone wonder if this injury will cause Jerry to push for more offseason activity for the Sox now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 The Bulls and Sox money are separate and distinct quantities with distinct and different ownership groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 JR didn't get rich by overreacting to things. The injury might change the Bulls look, but it won't affect the Sox one iota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) If won't affect us, but IF our money was shared with the Bulls, it could potentially hurt us in July. Maybe someone like Melo would want to come here so that **he could be 1 and Rose could be 1A. That would be quite the contract there. Edited November 25, 2013 by Jose Abreu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 04:51 PM) If won't affect us, but IF our money was shared with the Bulls, it could potentially hurt us in July. Maybe someone like Melo would want to come here so that they could be 1 and Rose could be 1A. That would be quite the contract there. That's not how the NBA works, but whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 12:10 PM) The Bulls and Sox money are separate and distinct quantities with distinct and different ownership groups. ^ Biggest myth about JR is that he uses the Bulls to fund the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 ^ Biggest myth about JR is that he uses the Bulls to fund the Sox. Second biggest myth about JR is that he uses the Sox to fund the Bulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 The third biggest myth about JR is that he is also Superman. This is simply untrue. His second identity is The Thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 03:52 PM) That's not how the NBA works, but whatever. Well, I said IF our money was shared, but it's not. And what do you mean? How does it work, then? If you're referring to the Bulls not being able to afford Melo, they could just amnesty Boozer and let Deng walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 01:10 PM) The Bulls and Sox money are separate and distinct quantities with distinct and different ownership groups. Not what he was saying, but what he was saying is almost certainly wrong anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 04:22 PM) Well, I said IF our money was shared, but it's not. And what do you mean? How does it work, then? If you're referring to the Bulls not being able to afford Melo, they could just amnesty Boozer and let Deng walk. LOL! whoa now, lets step back from this madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 04:22 PM) Well, I said IF our money was shared, but it's not. And what do you mean? How does it work, then? If you're referring to the Bulls not being able to afford Melo, they could just amnesty Boozer and let Deng walk. That still wouldn't give the Bulls the ability to offer Melo a max deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 05:22 PM) Well, I said IF our money was shared, but it's not. And what do you mean? How does it work, then? If you're referring to the Bulls not being able to afford Melo, they could just amnesty Boozer and let Deng walk. The phrase "That would be quite a contract". Yes it would compared to my earning power, but the NBA is a capped league with max contracts. You can already write down what the contract amount would be that the Bulls would be able to offer Carmelo Anthony. It's about 4/$95. For the Bulls to be able to offer that contract, they would have to be in a position where their total team payroll for next year was $35 million or less. That would, btw, take more than letting Deng and Boozer walk. So yes the contract would be expensive, but the Bulls would be in a position to rake in tons of money if they were able to offer it, since they'd have very little money on the books for next year and there's no way they could get into luxury tax areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 04:30 PM) The phrase "That would be quite a contract". Yes it would compared to my earning power, but the NBA is a capped league with max contracts. You can already write down what the contract amount would be that the Bulls would be able to offer Carmelo Anthony. It's about 4/$95. For the Bulls to be able to offer that contract, they would have to be in a position where their total team payroll for next year was $35 million or less. That would, btw, take more than letting Deng and Boozer walk. So yes the contract would be expensive, but the Bulls would be in a position to rake in tons of money if they were able to offer it, since they'd have very little money on the books for next year and there's no way they could get into luxury tax areas. I understand that my specific scenarios were inaccurate, however it still would be possible. He could potentially take a pay cut, much like "The Big Three" did in Miami. Trades could also be made to make this happen. It's unrealistic, but possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 05:35 PM) I understand that my specific scenarios were inaccurate, however it still would be possible. He could potentially take a pay cut, much like "The Big Three" did in Miami. Trades could also be made to make this happen. It's unrealistic, but possible. If he's going to lose his mind and take a pay cut...great, then that makes him even cheaper and it wouldn't change the fact that the Bulls would be in a position to have an incredibly profitable season. In fact, it would likely make the Bulls even more profitable over the following years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 04:06 PM) The third biggest myth about JR is that he is also Superman. This is simply untrue. His second identity is The Thing. The forth biggest myth is that JR is cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Myth: JR is a good owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 01:16 PM) Myth: JR is a good owner. This was a highly detailed, well laid out, convincing logical argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 12:16 PM) Myth: JR is a good owner. Why are you a season ticket holder if you hate ownership so much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 12:39 PM) This was a highly detailed, well laid out, convincing logical argument. It wouldn't convince you anyhow, too pro JR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 01:07 PM) Why are you a season ticket holder if you hate ownership so much? I don't hate ownership, never said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Marty34 @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 12:16 PM) Myth: JR is a good owner. QUOTE (Marty34 @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 01:08 PM) I don't hate ownership, never said that. So you like bad owners? Edited November 26, 2013 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 01:10 PM) So you like bad owners? He's not a bad owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 12:16 PM) Myth: JR is a good owner. QUOTE (Marty34 @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 01:13 PM) He's not a bad owner. You are such a troll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 01:32 PM) You are such a troll Not enough postseasons for 30+ years of ownership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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