cabiness42 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/newsst...ing_gizmo/P1000 201 ballots and Frank still close to 90% 99.5 - Maddux 95.5 - Glavine 89.6 - F. Thomas 78.6 - Biggio ——————————— 68.2 - Piazza 61.7 - Jack (The Jack) Morris 57.2 - Bagwell 54.2 - Raines 42.3 - Bonds 40.8 - Clemens 36.3 - Schilling 25.9 - Mussina 25.9 - E. Martinez 23.9 - L. Smith 22.4 - Trammell 15.4 - Kent 11.9 - McGriff 10.4 - McGwire 8.5 - L. Walker 7.5 - S. Sosa 6.0 - R. Palmeiro 5.0 - Mattingly ——————————— 0.5 - P. Rose (Write-In) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Things often don't generally make me feel old, but I remember when I worked at Oak Brook mall and saw Frank and family often, Sterling was a baby now he has a Twitter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 10:35 AM) Won't argue with you about Maddux and Pedro, but I'd definitely add Randy Johnson to that. When he was at his peak he was as nasty as I've ever seen. If Jeter is the first 100% I think I would literally vomit. Definitely won't disagree with you on that, I just think Pedro and Maddux were above him even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 10:03 AM) Here's a guy who needs to be deleted from all future votes. He only voted for Jack Morris. Eliminating everyone from the steroid era because he doesn't know who did and who didn't. How does he know no one from the non steroid eras didn't use a PED? http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10259259...-hall-selection FWIW, I heard an interview with him and he said that he'll probably abstain for the foreseeable future in reaction the the vitriol he has received lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 FWIW, I heard an interview with him and he said that he'll probably abstain for the foreseeable future in reaction the the vitriol he has received lol. If that's what he really said then that's the biggest chickens*** answer I've ever heard. He's already planning on not voting for anybody for the next 5+ years. Now he is just using fan reaction as his excuse for doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 11:21 AM) If that's what he really said then that's the biggest chickens*** answer I've ever heard. He's already planning on not voting for anybody for the next 5+ years. Now he is just using fan reaction as his excuse for doing so. If he doesn't vote at all, aka not turn in a ballot, he doesn't hurt anyone, as his ballot isn't tallied in the percentages. Turning in a blank ballot hurts everyone involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 11:08 AM) FWIW, I heard an interview with him and he said that he'll probably abstain for the foreseeable future in reaction the the vitriol he has received lol. He shouldn't have that choice. His should have his voting rights revoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Basically, Frank needs to be on 2 out of 3 of the unknown ballots. Until Jeff Idelson says the Hall welcomes 3 new players (or 4), I'm not 100% confident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 11:30 AM) He shouldn't have that choice. His should have his voting rights revoked. I agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 11:30 AM) Basically, Frank needs to be on 2 out of 3 of the unknown ballots. Until Jeff Idelson says the Hall welcomes 3 new players (or 4), I'm not 100% confident. Especially considering the ones who don't have their ballots known generally are older. They are more likely to be on board with holding guys out a year, being DH-biased.... But it is looking pretty likely. Edited January 8, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Maddux was almost a yankee and not a brave. http://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/10/sports/b...eel-jilted.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (rangercal @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 11:35 AM) Maddux was almost a yankee and not a brave. http://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/10/sports/b...eel-jilted.html Today a pitcher in Maddux's shoes would make $28 million a year... not over 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 01:38 PM) Today a pitcher in Maddux's shoes would make $28 million a year... not over 5 years. It is admirable that he took 6 million less to play for the braves. (with Boras as his agent, no less) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 How long before the 2pm announcement do they start calling the players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 11:57 AM) How long before the 2pm announcement do they start calling the players? I don't know, but that's why I looked up Frank's son's Twitter to see if he gives up anything. He may be getting the call right about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 12:30 PM) He shouldn't have that choice. His should have his voting rights revoked. Does anyone know if this has ever happened, and if so for what reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 12:02 PM) Does anyone know if this has ever happened, and if so for what reason? didn't Joe Cowley have his BBWAA credentials revoked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 11:57 AM) How long before the 2pm announcement do they start calling the players? I would say the phone call would be any time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 12:08 PM) didn't Joe Cowley have his BBWAA credentials revoked? I think the Chicago chapter suspended them for a year or so because he wasn't taking the MVP voting seriously. Apparently he thought it would be cute to screw around, bring some attention to himself (shocking considering he is Joe Cowley) and it wound up messing with the end result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 12:12 PM) I would say the phone call would be any time now. I bet the calls were made several hours ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonik22 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I'm so nervous. I know it's looking good but it's the older voters I worry about. C'mon, do something right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (Sonik22 @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 12:26 PM) I'm so nervous. I know it's looking good but it's the older voters I worry about. C'mon, do something right. I hope the only questions are: Will Biggio sneak in? Will Palmeiro and Sosa fall off the ballot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 the aged are a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 The 2014 HOF Ballot Collecting Gizmo! Updated: Jan.8 - 1:35 ~ 207 Full Ballots ~ (36.4%* of vote ~ based on last year) (*new pct. record!) 99.5 - Maddux 95.7 - Glavine 89.4 - F. Thomas 79.2 - Biggio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 12:37 PM) The 2014 HOF Ballot Collecting Gizmo! Updated: Jan.8 - 1:35 ~ 207 Full Ballots ~ (36.4%* of vote ~ based on last year) (*new pct. record!) 99.5 - Maddux 95.7 - Glavine 89.4 - F. Thomas 79.2 - Biggio If Frank doesn't make it, the Gizmo will go the way of the Edsel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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