BigEdWalsh Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 01:45 PM) I am strongly considering right now. Me too, only Utah is even further and by the time it rolls around I think I'm going to be living back in Seattle again. That's a loooooong haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 03:07 PM) Me too, only Utah is even further and by the time it rolls around I think I'm going to be living back in Seattle again. That's a loooooong haul. I definitely wouldn't be driving. Maybe fly into Buffalo or New York and drive from there, but Cooperstown is like 23 hours away from me. That is most definitely too far to drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I was 7 when Frank made his MLB debut so I grew up watching him throughout my childhood, he has always been my favorite player. I knew he would make the Hall of Fame, but getting in the first ballot is just so awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 03:10 PM) I definitely wouldn't be driving. Maybe fly into Buffalo or New York and drive from there, but Cooperstown is like 23 hours away from me. That is most definitely too far to drive. Fly into Albany, drive from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 03:14 PM) Fly into Albany, drive from there. That will be the easiest, but it would all depend on cost. Also, whether I can actually do it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 03:10 PM) I was 7 when Frank made his MLB debut so I grew up watching him throughout my childhood, he has always been my favorite player. I knew he would make the Hall of Fame, but getting in the first ballot is just so awesome. I was 20 what a great time to be 20-25 years old. Frank Thomas and the onset of grunge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 01:07 PM) Me too, only Utah is even further and by the time it rolls around I think I'm going to be living back in Seattle again. That's a loooooong haul. Give me a holler when you move here. We'll go catch a game together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 02:23 PM) Give me a holler when you move here. We'll go catch a game together. I will. It's still up in the air, but we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Live stream of Thomas press conference. http://www.csnchicago.com/page/livewhitesox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 ESPNChiSox: Frank suggests his production might have led players to use PEDs. Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan 15m Thomas on PEDs: "I was one of those guys who made a few guys go in that direction because of [my] size and strength." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 03:42 PM) ESPNChiSox: Frank suggests his production might have led players to use PEDs. Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan 15m Thomas on PEDs: "I was one of those guys who made a few guys go in that direction because of [my] size and strength." It's impossible to disagree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 Numbers Never Lie @ESPN_Numbers 4m Jacque Jones received more Hall of Fame votes (1) than he had All-Star seasons (0). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 05:42 PM) ESPNChiSox: Frank suggests his production might have led players to use PEDs. Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan 15m Thomas on PEDs: "I was one of those guys who made a few guys go in that direction because of [my] size and strength." HE'S TO BLAME! IMPEACH FRANK THOMAS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 The greatness of Frank Thomas http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-greatne...f-frank-thomas/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Really irritating to hear people b**** about how it is unfair to assume the Big Hurt didn't use steroids when we are just assuming about everyone else. Get your head out of your ass and do some research. This guy spent much of his career talking about PED use and even tried to game the system to force testing to start happening. There is literally nobody that would surprise me more to find out that he used steroids than Frank Thomas, including my boyhood hero Ken Griffey Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 Scot Gregor @scotgregor 8m Frank Thomas says Jeff Nelson was toughest pitcher he ever faced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 04:07 PM) Really irritating to hear people b**** about how it is unfair to assume the Big Hurt didn't use steroids when we are just assuming about everyone else. Get your head out of your ass and do some research. This guy spent much of his career talking about PED use and even tried to game the system to force testing to start happening. There is literally nobody that would surprise me more to find out that he used steroids than Frank Thomas, including my boyhood hero Ken Griffey Jr. He's really the only slugger from the juice era that is in HOF and he did it on first ballot with something like the 55th all time highest percentage. The majority have spoken and have not only recognized he's clean but are holding him out as an example of a clean player in a dirty era. People need to get clicks on their websites or ears to their radio show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Let's all laugh at this Facebook comment: "Jack Morris shouldve made it! He had the most wins in the 80s!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 04:12 PM) Scot Gregor @scotgregor 8m Frank Thomas says Jeff Nelson was toughest pitcher he ever faced. Nelson had great number against Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Oh, and this too: "If Bagwell had played in Chicago and Thomas in Houston, NO DOUBT that Baggy would be a HOFer!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (Real @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 07:49 AM) that's...... fine, but it doesn't refute anything I said androstenedione is a PED, has always been, same with amphetamines they weren't always banned substances but that isn't what was said what was said was "piazza never used PEDs", which is 100% false My point was, if you put amphetamines and andro in the same category as anabolic steroids than not only did Piazza use PEDs but almost everyone did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 04:20 PM) Nelson had great number against Thomas. Nelson was just a tough SOB to begin with. It really was too bad that the Sox didn't get him until his stuff was done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 04:24 PM) My point was, if you put amphetamines and andro in the same category as anabolic steroids than not only did Piazza use PEDs but almost everyone did. Which is why it's stupid that the voters are trying to play judge jury executioner with all the PEDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 amphetamines and andro do not belong in the same category as AAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 04:29 PM) Which is why it's stupid that the voters are trying to play judge jury executioner with all the PEDs. I disagree. The amphetamines and andro do not have the same effect as anabolic steroids. If you want to go with the strcit route than nobody should be in the HOF including Thomas. I will wager that he used amphetamines at one point or another. It's best to separate the steroids from the others as that is where the difference was made. Bonds, Sosa and McGwire did not hit those HR's on the back of amphetamines. Edit: What Jake said. Edited January 8, 2014 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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