DukeNukeEm Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/11/r...cation-notices/ NYC is about to do what we were promised every time weve compromised on guns would never happen. Never register, never buy at a place that requires a background check. Here comes the round up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Yes, illegally buying guns is the answer and not the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted November 30, 2013 Author Share Posted November 30, 2013 The laws are built on an obvious lie that things like gun confiscation will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Did NYC say that this "confiscation" would not happen when they passed whatever ordinance that made it possible? Also, who the hell owns shotguns that can hold 5 shells? There are about 25-30 firearms in my house and none of them would be affected by this law. Obviously, the handguns would be no bueno in NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I thought 5 rounds was a pretty common size for a shotgun? Isn't the popular Remington 870 4+1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I love my city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Nov 29, 2013 -> 04:37 PM) http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/11/r...cation-notices/ NYC is about to do what we were promised every time weve compromised on guns would never happen. Never register, never buy at a place that requires a background check. Here comes the round up. I mean, I'm a pretty big pro-gun supporter, but isn't it illegal to own them in NYC to begin with? (Hell, I don't even think you're allowed to travel through the city with one on your person). So rounding up something that is illegal to own to begin with kind of makes sense, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Nov 29, 2013 -> 03:37 PM) http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/11/r...cation-notices/ NYC is about to do what we were promised every time weve compromised on guns would never happen. Never register, never buy at a place that requires a background check. Here comes the round up. Jurisprudence from Miller all the way to the most recent SCOTUS looks have all made clear that states and localities have the ability to pass laws regulating guns, including banning certain types of weapons. There are restrictions as to how far those can go, for example the recent City of Chicago cases which mean the end of their handgun bans. But there are still regulations that are allowed. This is not new. If the weapons to be confiscated are illegal, and have been illegal, and the law has standing (which it does), I fail to see how this is some scary government conspiracy to pry your guns from your cold dead hands. They are choosing to do targeted enforcement of existing laws. I do agree with you though about registration being a bad thing. I don't like it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Like they say, only criminals will have guns. Good thing that we are tough on criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (Tex @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 01:49 PM) Like they say, only criminals will have guns. Good thing that we are tough on criminals. Possessing an illegal gun = you get a sternly worded letter. Yup, that's tough on people breaking the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 12:53 PM) Possessing an illegal gun = you get a sternly worded letter. Yup, that's tough on people breaking the law. i'm sure I am missing something here, but if they are illegal in the first place why did the state allow them to be registered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 02:50 PM) i'm sure I am missing something here, but if they are illegal in the first place why did the state allow them to be registered? NYC and NY State have differing sets of regulations when it comes to guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 The NY SAFE Act had a pretty pathetic grandfather clause. A lot of people were made criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 08:40 PM) The NY SAFE Act had a pretty pathetic grandfather clause. A lot of people were made criminals. And when a law has a weak grandfathering clause it correctly gets labeled as so weak that there's no reason to pass the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 I dont follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 The anniversary of Sandy Hook really brought out the whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 14, 2013 -> 09:30 PM) The anniversary of Sandy Hook really brought out the whining. Yup. I mean, what a f***ing joke. Your kid is dead, get over it. Wimps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 Id think you'd be pleased with the progress made in the past year in destroying our rights. I know, the 2A is still pretty in tact and figures to stay that way regardless of how much we need to THINK OF THE CHILDEN, but take solace in finally shooting the 4th (pesky f***er tgat one was eh?) in the back of the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 15, 2013 -> 10:56 AM) Id think you'd be pleased with the progress made in the past year in destroying our rights. I know, the 2A is still pretty in tact and figures to stay that way regardless of how much we need to THINK OF THE CHILDEN, but take solace in finally shooting the 4th (pesky f***er tgat one was eh?) in the back of the head. And I'm sure youre 100% thrilled with the 25 post-Sandy Hook school shootings. I mean, how do the sandy hook parents not realize that their kids are martyrs for the most important cause in the universe, keeping people armed because that's important!!!!!!!!!!!!! They should be partying right now, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 15, 2013 -> 02:35 PM) I love how both sides acts like they're above the other, yet both exploit tragedies to further their causes. I'd be more than happy to have fewer of these to exploit, but we have other priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 The Bill of Rights is not to be confused with the Ten Commandments. You're allowed to change it, point out its flaws, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 And I'm sure youre 100% thrilled with the 25 post-Sandy Hook school shootings. I mean, how do the sandy hook parents not realize that their kids are martyrs for the most important cause in the universe, keeping people armed because that's important!!!!!!!!!!!!! They should be partying right now, obviously. I dont care about mass shootings at all. If that level of tragedy is too much for us to bear we've gone completely soft. Lightning kills more people. Maybe we should ban lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 15, 2013 -> 05:38 PM) I dont care about mass shootings at all. If that level of tragedy is too much for us to bear we've gone completely soft. Lightning kills more people. Maybe we should ban lightning. Sir, you are one f***ed up individual and I pray you never have children. Edited December 16, 2013 by Quinarvy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 We live in an imperfect world with death and suffering. Attempts to eradicate that reality always fail and always diminish the quality of the short, fragile existence we do get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 That is a completely wrong statement that could be tweaked to at least be less immediately refutable. We have quite obviously improved our existence over the centuries and it was more than mere accident that it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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