Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 @scottmerkin: White Sox also have re-signed Hector Gimenez to a Minor League deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 De Aza, Beckham, Viciedo, Flowers all tendered , Axlerod non-tendered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 08:31 PM) De Aza, Beckham, Viciedo, Flowers all tendered , Axlerod non-tendered. source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 06:36 PM) source? Its on the mlbtraderumors list http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/nontenders2014 but no links provided for Beckham, De Aza and Viciedo , just Flowers and Ax. Edited December 3, 2013 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 08:31 PM) @scottmerkin: White Sox also have re-signed Hector Gimenez to a Minor League deal Watch them invite Axelrod to camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 08:31 PM) @scottmerkin: White Sox also have re-signed Hector Gimenez to a Minor League deal He actually wasn't terrible up in the bigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtrem Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 You know were dying for a legitimate rumor when tendering a contract to Tyler Flowers creates this kinda buzz. At this point I just wanna see moves, any White Sox moves. Do something bold, do something dumb. I just need to see something happen....anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Tyler Flowers still has an option remaining. Re-signing him means nothing other than he won't be playing for another team next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Who cares, its 950K. He's worth bringing into camp at that price. Its not inconceivable that he could be a useful part time player next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 07:49 PM) Who cares, its 950K. He's worth bringing into camp at that price. Its not inconceivable that he could be a useful part time player next year. Hell, the Sox shoulda gave me that 950k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Nothing wrong with bringing back Flowers at $950k. First, he creates some leverage for Hahn to use in trade talks for a legit catching upgrade by being able to say "we have two young catchers we believe in". Second, assuming Hahn can find a LH catcher, Flowers can push Phelgey for the backup spot and potentially provide the organization some depth at the position if he wins the job. Worst case scenario, at that salary he should be moveable in spring training and basically cost us nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Doesn't surprise me. I just hope he isn't the opening day starter. Hopefully they sign AJ. Just makes too much sense and he certainly won't be blocking anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I'm amazed that people wanted to the Sox to bring in JP Arencibia and then are irate that the Sox brought back Flowers. This is the ultimate in "who cares" signings. If the dude sucks, he'll get DFA'd. This signing is merely to insure that they have 2 MLB catchers on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:45 AM) I'm amazed that people wanted to the Sox to bring in JP Arencibia and then are irate that the Sox brought back Flowers. This is the ultimate in "who cares" signings. If the dude sucks, he'll get DFA'd. This signing is merely to insure that they have 2 MLB catchers on the roster. Who are the people that wanted to bring in JP Arencibia and irate that Flowers was brought back? I merely threw out the idea that a swap could take place but thats it. Not surprised he was resigned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 3m Rick Hahn said both Flowers and Phegley have more than what they showed in '13 and could be conceivable long-term solutions but.. Hahn: "We have made no secret of the fact that we need to get more out of that position than we got in 2013, so we continue to evaluate.. ... both our internal and external options for improvement."q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:39 PM) Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 3m Rick Hahn said both Flowers and Phegley have more than what they showed in '13 and could be conceivable long-term solutions but.. Hahn: "We have made no secret of the fact that we need to get more out of that position than we got in 2013, so we continue to evaluate.. ... both our internal and external options for improvement."q I like what I've seen out of Hahn, but in my mind, the ship has sailed on Flowers. I'd give Phegley one more year. I'd have preferred it as a backup. Now he's the starter I hope and Flowers is the backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Dec 4, 2013 -> 05:07 PM) Why? Because it's $1 million for a catcher who is solid defensively, knows the staff, is well liked in the clubhouse, and can hit the ball 500 feet. Edited December 5, 2013 by witesoxfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 09:31 AM) Because it's $1 million for a catcher who is solid defensively, knows the staff, is well liked in the clubhouse, and can hit the ball 500 feet. Plus if he ever gets hot we can have him split time with Dunn at the DH spot since we don't have another RH hitting DH to soak up 100....wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 08:32 AM) Plus if he ever gets hot we can have him split time with Dunn at the DH spot since we don't have another RH hitting DH to soak up 100....wait... Tyler Flowers, in his career vs LHP (188 PAs): .185/.241/.353/.593 And I don't think I've ever seen a White Sox manager use his backup catcher in the same lineup as his starting catcher unless there were 3 catchers on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 09:40 AM) And I don't think I've ever seen a White Sox manager use his backup catcher in the same lineup as his starting catcher unless there were 3 catchers on the roster. I know, I know. It's the same reason I can say with confidence that the veteran will get his at bats instead of the rookie at 1b - that's standard managing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 08:46 AM) I know, I know. It's the same reason I can say with confidence that the veteran will get his at bats instead of the rookie at 1b - that's standard managing. Didn't Abreu sign the biggest contract in team history? Didn't Paulie say himself he wasn't going to play a lot? There is no reason to think Abreu is going to ride any pine, except for occassional breaks in 2014. None.You are just way off base. Edited December 5, 2013 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 08:46 AM) I know, I know. It's the same reason I can say with confidence that the veteran will get his at bats instead of the rookie at 1b - that's standard managing. Konerko himself has said he couldn't handle that kind of load. Do you not believe him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 10:14 AM) Konerko himself has said he couldn't handle that kind of load. Do you not believe him? Frankly...no. I don't think they'll try to play him everyday but I think they'll play him often enough that it infuriates me. I'm so used to it from this team I just expect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 09:20 AM) Frankly...no. I don't think they'll try to play him everyday but I think they'll play him often enough that it infuriates me. I'm so used to it from this team I just expect it. From your tone, it seems like it's going to infuriate you if he plays as much as Billy Crystal did in Spring Training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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