Eminor3rd Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Guys, if he wasn't f***ed up, there's no way in hell they'd have non-tendered him to save a million freakin dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 12:41 AM) Jake, I've been wanting to know for a while, what is going on with Bob Ley in your avatar? http://deadspin.com/espn-blunder-leads-to-...oment-489510155 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Hudson isn't going to get just a million dollars on the open market. If Kazmir got $22 million for 2 years with his injury history, Hudson will see more, and it won't be from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 06:49 AM) Hudson isn't going to get just a million dollars on the open market. If Kazmir got $22 million for 2 years with his injury history, Hudson will see more, and it won't be from us. I hope you aren't talking about this year in free agency. He isn't even likely to pitch for most of 2014. No one is going to give him near Kazmir money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 If soxtalk ran the team, with all the players we want signed, the Sox roster would have 34 players and Charlotte would have 42. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Just desperation (and perhaps frustration setting in with inactivity so far) to improve the catching position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Cooper already decided he didn't like the guy once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 07:56 AM) Cooper already decided he didn't like the guy once. His arm motion is both his success and his downfall. Cooper called that out right away. Hudson is a good pitcher when healthy though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 07:25 AM) If soxtalk ran the team, with all the players we want signed, the Sox roster would have 34 players and Charlotte would have 42. And we'd have a $500 million payroll, until the team started out 0-2 and traded everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 07:01 AM) And we'd have a $500 million payroll, until the team started out 0-2 and traded everyone. We'd still have the $500 million payroll though, just no players left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 10:02 AM) We'd still have the $500 million payroll though, just no players left That's how you get prospects, pay other teams to give them to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:02 AM) We'd still have the $500 million payroll though, just no players left But we'd have the best minor league system that any 28 win team ever had! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 It is incredible how many Rule 5 and non-tender guys are popular around here. There usually is a reason these guys fall into that category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 But we'd have the best minor league system that any 28 win team ever had! And parking would be free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 It is incredible how many Rule 5 and non-tender guys are popular around here. There usually is a reason these guys fall into that category. Tommy Hanson is genuinely intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:33 AM) Tommy Hanson is genuinely intriguing. When Tommy Hanson came up, he averaged 92.3 MPH on his fastball and it had some serious get up. It didn't average 90 this year (almost down to Dylan Axelrod range), his K/9 fell below 7, his line drive and flyball rates increased, and his control remained mediocre. I think he's hurt and I don't think he's even worth a flyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:33 AM) Tommy Hanson is genuinely intriguing. Yes the biggest obstacle is that he is a Boras guy so that probably takes us out of the running. But - Coop'll fix him. Definitely worth a flyer to a re-building team like the Sox, but I am sure that Boras will steer him to a more pitcher friendly stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:38 AM) When Tommy Hanson came up, he averaged 92.3 MPH on his fastball and it had some serious get up. It didn't average 90 this year (almost down to Dylan Axelrod range), his K/9 fell below 7, his line drive and flyball rates increased, and his control remained mediocre. I think he's hurt and I don't think he's even worth a flyer. He is hurt and that messed up his mechanics. http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/201...viewed-as-gold/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:43 AM) He is hurt and that messed up his mechanics. http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/201...viewed-as-gold/ If his problem is mechanical, I know a guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 If his problem is mechanical, I know a guy... Exactly my thought, in an alternate dimension Coop already fixed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:50 AM) If his problem is mechanical, I know a guy... He altered his mechanics to compensate for the injuries. From the sounds of it, if he reverts to his previous mechanics, he will end up hurting his back and shoulder. I just don't think it's worth the headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:55 AM) He altered his mechanics to compensate for the injuries. From the sounds of it, if he reverts to his previous mechanics, he will end up hurting his back and shoulder. I just don't think it's worth the headache. It could also be possible to put him into a mechanical slot that doesn't shred his back and shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Hudson is toast and I don't think the organization (Cooper) liked him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 11:18 AM) Hudson is toast and I don't think the organization (Cooper) liked him. I heard the org did not like Hudson tons. Of course in a buy low/no-risk situation anyone is fine. But that said, maybe we're drawn to someone else's reclamation project rather than the one we've already had up close Edited December 3, 2013 by Jose Paniagua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:18 AM) Hudson is toast and I don't think the organization (Cooper) liked him. Plus, why would you sign a reliever who's going to be out all of 2014? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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