cwsox Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 I originally asked, basically, why the backlash against Konerko. Yeah, bad first half to say the least, but if I'm not mistaken, he's got like the 3rd highest average in the team since the All-Star break. God forbid if a player on this team goes into a slump. now see there, yes. Sox fans turn on their own too easily in my opinion. If a player is not dogging it (a la, in my opinion, Colon in some games and D'Lo with every breath he took for eaxample) then a slump I will stick with them and wonder why others turn on them. MB was ripped earlier this year and as you point out, PK was and is and why PK is getting all this blasting I have no idea. I don;t understand it. Given my druthers, since it is a long season and no one hoits 400 anymore, if a player is going to ahve a slump, the early part of the season is better than the late part. And it is a team game - everyone slumps - so a player has to give the best that he can and his team mates have to carry him for a while because it happens to everyone and that is why it is a team game. So I certainly agree, the deities fdorgive a player going into a slump because the vultures will be out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 I originally asked, basically, why the backlash against Konerko. Yeah, bad first half to say the least, but if I'm not mistaken, he's got like the 3rd highest average in the team since the All-Star break. God forbid if a player on this team goes into a slump. now see there, yes. Sox fans turn on their own too easily in my opinion. If a player is not dogging it (a la, in my opinion, Colon in some games and D'Lo with every breath he took for eaxample) then a slump I will stick with them and wonder why others turn on them. MB was ripped earlier this year and as you point out, PK was and is and why PK is getting all this blasting I have no idea. I don;t understand it. Given my druthers, since it is a long season and no one hoits 400 anymore, if a player is going to ahve a slump, the early part of the season is better than the late part. And it is a team game - everyone slumps - so a player has to give the best that he can and his team mates have to carry him for a while because it happens to everyone and that is why it is a team game. So I certainly agree, the deities fdorgive a player going into a slump because the vultures will be out... First of all, Vince... where exactly was he getting slack he didn't deserve? Did he stink up the joint the first half? Yes. Did anyone s*** on him for his performance since the break? No. You want to sit there on top of the hill and pretend he's been the savior.. then go for it. But don't pretend like you don't know why he's gotten the crap he's gotten this year. Both of those threads.. and nearly every post in them.. was simple poster bashing. That's all it was. No more, no less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywood_Jablome Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 I originally asked, basically, why the backlash against Konerko. Yeah, bad first half to say the least, but if I'm not mistaken, he's got like the 3rd highest average in the team since the All-Star break. God forbid if a player on this team goes into a slump. now see there, yes. Sox fans turn on their own too easily in my opinion. If a player is not dogging it (a la, in my opinion, Colon in some games and D'Lo with every breath he took for eaxample) then a slump I will stick with them and wonder why others turn on them. MB was ripped earlier this year and as you point out, PK was and is and why PK is getting all this blasting I have no idea. I don;t understand it. Given my druthers, since it is a long season and no one hoits 400 anymore, if a player is going to ahve a slump, the early part of the season is better than the late part. And it is a team game - everyone slumps - so a player has to give the best that he can and his team mates have to carry him for a while because it happens to everyone and that is why it is a team game. So I certainly agree, the deities fdorgive a player going into a slump because the vultures will be out... First of all, Vince... where exactly was he getting slack he didn't deserve? Did he stink up the joint the first half? Yes. Did anyone s*** on him for his performance since the break? No. You want to sit there on top of the hill and pretend he's been the savior.. then go for it. But don't pretend like you don't know why he's gotten the crap he's gotten this year. Both of those threads.. and nearly every post in them.. was simple poster bashing. That's all it was. No more, no less. I don't think anyone is pretending he is the savior, but I think we can all agree that he would be highly valuable in the stretch run if he continues to hit. There is no doubt he deserved the criticism he got in the first half of the season, and even the second half of last year. But please don't pretend you are unaware of those who still seem to criticize him now that he's turned it around a bit. Maybe some were "poster bashing", but I was simply asking a question as to why some people are relentless on the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 I originally asked, basically, why the backlash against Konerko. Yeah, bad first half to say the least, but if I'm not mistaken, he's got like the 3rd highest average in the team since the All-Star break. God forbid if a player on this team goes into a slump. now see there, yes. Sox fans turn on their own too easily in my opinion. If a player is not dogging it (a la, in my opinion, Colon in some games and D'Lo with every breath he took for eaxample) then a slump I will stick with them and wonder why others turn on them. MB was ripped earlier this year and as you point out, PK was and is and why PK is getting all this blasting I have no idea. I don;t understand it. Given my druthers, since it is a long season and no one hoits 400 anymore, if a player is going to ahve a slump, the early part of the season is better than the late part. And it is a team game - everyone slumps - so a player has to give the best that he can and his team mates have to carry him for a while because it happens to everyone and that is why it is a team game. So I certainly agree, the deities fdorgive a player going into a slump because the vultures will be out... First of all, Vince... where exactly was he getting slack he didn't deserve? Did he stink up the joint the first half? Yes. Did anyone s*** on him for his performance since the break? No. You want to sit there on top of the hill and pretend he's been the savior.. then go for it. But don't pretend like you don't know why he's gotten the crap he's gotten this year. Both of those threads.. and nearly every post in them.. was simple poster bashing. That's all it was. No more, no less. I don't think anyone is pretending he is the savior, but I think we can all agree that he would be highly valuable in the stretch run if he continues to hit. There is no doubt he deserved the criticism he got in the first half of the season, and even the second half of last year. But please don't pretend you are unaware of those who still seem to criticize him now that he's turned it around a bit. Maybe some were "poster bashing", but I was simply asking a question as to why some people are relentless on the guy. Haywood.. I wasn't even thinking it was you that was bashing, so don't take it personally. MO.. people say what they want. Who cares. No worries. And if it bothers someone that much.. they need to get up and stretch the leggs And, as I said - right there in black and white, no one is s***ting on him for what he's doing "now". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywood_Jablome Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 I originally asked, basically, why the backlash against Konerko. Yeah, bad first half to say the least, but if I'm not mistaken, he's got like the 3rd highest average in the team since the All-Star break. God forbid if a player on this team goes into a slump. now see there, yes. Sox fans turn on their own too easily in my opinion. If a player is not dogging it (a la, in my opinion, Colon in some games and D'Lo with every breath he took for eaxample) then a slump I will stick with them and wonder why others turn on them. MB was ripped earlier this year and as you point out, PK was and is and why PK is getting all this blasting I have no idea. I don;t understand it. Given my druthers, since it is a long season and no one hoits 400 anymore, if a player is going to ahve a slump, the early part of the season is better than the late part. And it is a team game - everyone slumps - so a player has to give the best that he can and his team mates have to carry him for a while because it happens to everyone and that is why it is a team game. So I certainly agree, the deities fdorgive a player going into a slump because the vultures will be out... First of all, Vince... where exactly was he getting slack he didn't deserve? Did he stink up the joint the first half? Yes. Did anyone s*** on him for his performance since the break? No. You want to sit there on top of the hill and pretend he's been the savior.. then go for it. But don't pretend like you don't know why he's gotten the crap he's gotten this year. Both of those threads.. and nearly every post in them.. was simple poster bashing. That's all it was. No more, no less. I don't think anyone is pretending he is the savior, but I think we can all agree that he would be highly valuable in the stretch run if he continues to hit. There is no doubt he deserved the criticism he got in the first half of the season, and even the second half of last year. But please don't pretend you are unaware of those who still seem to criticize him now that he's turned it around a bit. Maybe some were "poster bashing", but I was simply asking a question as to why some people are relentless on the guy. Haywood.. I wasn't even thinking it was you that was bashing, so don't take it personally. MO.. people say what they want. Who cares. No worries. And if it bothers someone that much.. they need to get up and stretch the leggs And, as I said - right there in black and white, no one is s***ting on him for what he's doing "now". Gothca Steff, nothing personal towards you either. Never is. I have a feeling I know who you might be talking about though as far as the poster bashing. I know my screen name is goofy, but I just like to raise some valid points, enjoy some discussion and make people think outside the box. I know it was in a different thread, but you're right about Cotts today. He sure did piss down his leg, but everyone acted like it was a guaranteed win if Buehrle went today. You never know, that's why you play 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted August 28, 2003 Author Share Posted August 28, 2003 HEY MODS. CAN WE PLEASE BAN HAYWOOD JACKASS , OR WHATEVER HE CALLS HIMSELF, AND CLOSE THIS THREAD. THANKS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 I looked into my crystal ball for 2004: Konerko+Koch to LAD for Gagne+(1 of Jordan or Burnitz)+cash LAD will want the SOX to pickup 10MIL worth of salary in Gagne+. Can you say World Series? 2K4 Bullpen: Wunsch->Gordon/Marte->Gagne : Best in the Bigs Gordon&Marte will be 8th inning dudes. If it's Burnitz -> DH/1B If it's Jordan -> any OF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 I looked into my crystal ball for 2004: Konerko+Koch to LAD for Gagne+(1 of Jordan or Burnitz)+cash LAD will want the SOX to pickup 10MIL worth of salary in Gagne+. Can you say World Series? 2K4 Bullpen: Wunsch->Gordon/Marte->Gagne : Best in the Bigs Gordon&Marte will be 8th inning dudes. If it's Burnitz -> DH/1B If it's Jordan -> any OF Damn is all I could say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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