mataipaepae Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 with seattle signing cano. there is a big log jam in their infield. Maybe we could sweep in and get one. all 3 of these guys bat left handed. dusitn ackley 2B. also has experience in CF nick frnaklin SS/2B. a good prospect for them. has good speed. brad miller SS. played last year and showed good promise. maybe we could move beckham to 3B? but we would be getting a LH bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Aren't most of the Sox better position prospects middle infielders? Edited December 6, 2013 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 10:49 AM) Aren't most of the Sox better position prospects middle infielders? Depends on your definition of "better." Most are projected to be UT guys. L. Garcia and Sanchez are probably UT guys, Micah Johnson is suppose to move to the OF because he's a butcher at 2B, Tim Anderson is a ways off. Semien could stick, but he might play 3B. Point is, if you have a chance to acquire a legit guy, our minor leaguers shouldn't be a concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (mataipaepae @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 10:46 AM) with seattle signing cano. there is a big log jam in their infield. Maybe we could sweep in and get one. all 3 of these guys bat left handed. dusitn ackley 2B. also has experience in CF nick frnaklin SS/2B. a good prospect for them. has good speed. brad miller SS. played last year and showed good promise. maybe we could move beckham to 3B? but we would be getting a LH bat. I would love to see a move where we picked up Seager and Ackley. Ackley's value is in the toliet, but I think he is worth taking a flyer on. We could send Beckham back to play 3B and they could keep Miller at SS and use Franklin as a 2B/SS/3B. Ackley can play both LF and 2B, where ever the Sox have a hole depending on Semien/Viciedo/Dunn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 10:49 AM) Aren't most of the Sox better position prospects middle infielders? Yes, but none are really locks to be ML regulars. This farm system is not very good yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think they love Miller. My guess is they will try to package Franklin in a blockbuster deal next week. I'd guess that they don;t feel like their offseason is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Jon Morosi is saying the Mariners think they have the pieces to get David Price. The Sox have to listen on Chris Sale. They'd be nuts not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Im all aboard the Nick Franklin train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 11:15 AM) Jon Morosi is saying the Mariners think they have the pieces to get David Price. The Sox have to listen on Chris Sale. They'd be nuts not to. The offer the ends up getting Price won't be enough to make us happy about Sale. Age and contract add much more value to Sale. There's no way the M's will give up enough for Sale when they can give up less for Price. Plus, come on. If you don't hold on to 24 year old stars signed affordably through their age 30 seasons as building blocks, what are you doing? What is the plan there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Seager is pretty awesome and has the trajectory to be a Saber wetdream. I DOUBT seattle trades him now that they've committed 10 years to "winning" baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (Jillian Michaels' Abs @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 11:28 AM) Seager is pretty awesome and has the trajectory to be a Saber wetdream. I DOUBT seattle trades him now that they've committed 10 years to "winning" baseball. No chance. Seattle just pushed the chips in. They'll be trading prospects, not anyone that can contribute immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 11:28 AM) The offer the ends up getting Price won't be enough to make us happy about Sale. Age and contract add much more value to Sale. There's no way the M's will give up enough for Sale when they can give up less for Price. Plus, come on. If you don't hold on to 24 year old stars signed affordably through their age 30 seasons as building blocks, what are you doing? What is the plan there? People talk about how they don't want to be perpetually bad, but then discuss the idea of moving Sale. That's the way you become perpetually bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 12:29 PM) No chance. Seattle just pushed the chips in. They'll be trading prospects, not anyone that can contribute immediately. *sadface* Now I need to rethink my MLB the Show trade philosophy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 11:28 AM) The offer the ends up getting Price won't be enough to make us happy about Sale. Age and contract add much more value to Sale. There's no way the M's will give up enough for Sale when they can give up less for Price. Plus, come on. If you don't hold on to 24 year old stars signed affordably through their age 30 seasons as building blocks, what are you doing? What is the plan there? The plan would be to get 3-4 building blocks for him. I would only trade Sale if we would get absolute studs back at multiple positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 11:28 AM) The offer the ends up getting Price won't be enough to make us happy about Sale. Age and contract add much more value to Sale. There's no way the M's will give up enough for Sale when they can give up less for Price. Plus, come on. If you don't hold on to 24 year old stars signed affordably through their age 30 seasons as building blocks, what are you doing? What is the plan there? If the Sox could get multiple pieces- a future potential ace, and a couple premium bats, why not? You keep Santiago, Quintana, and maybe Taijuan Walker, plus they can draft a big arm next June if they want. I'm not saying "time to trade Chris Sale", but they shouldn't be telling teams "don't even ask". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 11:31 AM) The plan would be to get 3-4 building blocks for him. I would only trade Sale if we would get absolute studs back at multiple positions. Right but that's not realistic. You can't trade $20 for $50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 11:30 AM) People talk about how they don't want to be perpetually bad, but then discuss the idea of moving Sale. That's the way you become perpetually bad. Right. I mean that's the Royals 25-year bad streak right there. They developed a lot of good players along the way, but they didn't hold onto them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 11:15 AM) Jon Morosi is saying the Mariners think they have the pieces to get David Price. The Sox have to listen on Chris Sale. They'd be nuts not to. I think a deal centered around Tijaun Walker, James Paxton, and Nick Franklin may indeed land Price for the Mariners. It makes sense for them. They also have a new $2 billion TV deal and they want to fill the seats. They are supposedly still in on other free agents as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 The Marinres OF/DH spot is a mess, especially after Morales rejected their qualifying offer. Viciedo/De Aza could be of interest to them, maybe even both. They have Saunders/Ackley/Almonte/Montero to fill 4 spots. I'd do Franklin for Viciedo straight up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 11:55 AM) The Marinres OF/DH spot is a mess, especially after Morales rejected their qualifying offer. Viciedo/De Aza could be of interest to them, maybe even both. They have Saunders/Ackley/Almonte/Montero to fill 4 spots. I'd do Franklin for Viciedo straight up. Why? We don't need another middle infielder. We need someone who can hit 30+ homers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 11:15 AM) Jon Morosi is saying the Mariners think they have the pieces to get David Price. The Sox have to listen on Chris Sale. They'd be nuts not to. They have never said they wouldn't listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 11:30 AM) People talk about how they don't want to be perpetually bad, but then discuss the idea of moving Sale. That's the way you become perpetually bad. Preach. You trade Chris Sale if you want to start talking about 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataipaepae Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 10:49 AM) Aren't most of the Sox better position prospects middle infielders? The biggest differences is these 3 bring big league experience and a LH bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 11:35 AM) Right but that's not realistic. You can't trade $20 for $50. Not saying it's likely, but when the Scott Feldman's and the Jason Vargas's of the world are getting 3 and 4 year deals for 30 and 32 million dollars, a young cost controlled ace could get back just about anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 12:23 PM) Not saying it's likely, but when the Scott Feldman's and the Jason Vargas's of the world are getting 3 and 4 year deals for 30 and 32 million dollars, a young cost controlled ace could get back just about anything. It also provides significant surplus value to the White Sox. Trade others to supplement the team. There's no need to trade the best pitcher the Sox have had in years and years and years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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