southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/12/whit...medium=facebook By Steve Adams [December 9, 2013 at 12:26pm CST] The White Sox are looking to move a starting pitcher, according to Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports. While the Sox would love to unload John Danks' contract, they recognize how difficult that would be. Passan adds that Jose Quintana and Hector Santiago are both available. In order to move Chris Sale, the White Sox would need a package even bigger than the one that expected to be needed to land David Price, according to Passan (Twitter links). Joel Sherman of the New York Post spoke with an executive that has been in regular contact with the Sox regarding Sale (Twitter link) and was told: "We have asked million times about Sale and never felt they would trade him." Likewise, Colleen Kane of the Chicago Tribune spoke with White Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf who said that while the only untradeable player he's seen in his time as chairman of the White Sox and Bulls was Michael Jordan, the team isn't looking to move Sale and sees him as a big part of its success going forward. Quintana has been said to be off limits in trades, though reports last night indicated that the Padres have asked for Quintana in trades for Chase Headley. Quintana can be controlled through 2018 while Santiago is controllable through 2017. Santiago has been said to be easier to acquire than Quintana. As for Danks, he is owed $42.75MM through the 2016 season -- an average annual value of $14.25MM. Still just 28 years old, Danks underwent shoulder surgery in 2012 and has a 5.02 ERA over 192 innings over the past two seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) Danks just doesn't seem likely. Even if someone would trade for him we would be selling at his lowest value. Hold onto him and hope he pitches well the 1st 1/2 of the season. Even if he can keep his ERA around 3.7-3.9 he will still seem like value and shouldn't be a problem to trade. If I'm Hahn I'm asking for a king's ransom for Q and hoping someone delivers. I like Q, but I do think he's replaceable and he is our best shot at getting 2 good, young position players that can help in the near future. Edited December 9, 2013 by TheFutureIsNear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I don't trade a starter. Our pitching depth is grossly overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 12:53 PM) I don't trade a starter. Our pitching depth is grossly overrated. The Sox scored 598 runs in 2013. Take what you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 01:57 PM) I don't trade Danks. Selling low on someone who has minimal value right now? Doesn't make sense. Let him build his value back up. Package him up with Chris Sale similar to the Hanley/Beckett trade (Mike Lowell) and the Cabrera trade (Dontrelle Willis) *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Trading Danks now only makes sense if the Sox are clearing payroll to sign a FA or another trade for a player with a higher salary. Just not seeing it but I'm not at the meetings so what do I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 01:53 PM) I don't trade a starter. Our pitching depth is grossly overrated. How? Q, Santiago, Danks, Johnson, Renzio, Beck isn't enough to fill out a well above average 2-5? Trading Sale would also most likely result in acquiring at least 1 more good SP prospect. And then there is the 3rd pick.... Like I said, I'd personally rather trade Q, but offers have to be at least listened to on Sale. There isn't enough talent on this team to turn down 3 or 4 really good prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 12:53 PM) I don't trade a starter. Our pitching depth is grossly overrated. If we dont trade a pitcher, we aren't getting anything in return. None of our position players are worth anything except Garcia and Alexei. Need to give up something to get something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 02:04 PM) No. If you move Sale you get the absolute best package possible. Why move two starters in the same trade if it doesn't help us get better? I am flinging s*** at the wall... much like the sports media right now. Sale won't be traded. Duh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 12:57 PM) I don't trade Danks. Selling low on someone who has minimal value right now? Doesn't make sense. Let him build his value back up. Agreed. A string of nice starts to start 2014 and you're back in business with him as a trade chip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 01:53 PM) I don't trade a starter. Our pitching depth is grossly overrated. Part of that over-rated pitching staff was caused by below average defense.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 06:53 PM) I don't trade a starter. Our pitching depth is grossly overrated. I could not agree more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Getting rid of his contract would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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