royoung Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Smart move, he has been effective as a SP and 1.75 million is a fraction of the cost of whats out there. Never a bad idea to have rotation depth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 02:50 PM) I wonder if this takes us out of the market for other FA starters. What other FA starters? Garza? Santana? Jimenez? No thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 17m White Sox 40-man is now at 38, and that does not factor in Ronald Belisario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 02:54 PM) Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 17m White Sox 40-man is now at 38, and that does not factor in Ronald Belisario Trade coming soon.....Belisario still has to come from Venezuela to take his physical incase anybody was wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 02:55 PM) Trade coming soon.....Belisario still has to come from Venezuela to take his physical incase anybody was wondering Gotta agree on the trade coming soon seeing as how the Sox are looking to trade a lefty, it sounds like a ST competition between Paulino, Johnson and Rienzo for the final to spots in the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 02:54 PM) I never said or implied we would be going after a top 3 starter in FA. We checked in on Josh Johnson and obviously he has a much a better track record than a guy like Paulino. True, I am not familiar with some of the other "bargain" FA starters, but JJ signed for 8 million. We don't have a pressing need for starters, some might even say we have good depth there, so I am comfortable spending 1.75 on a bounce back guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Seems to me that the plan is to trade one of Quintana/Santiago (or Danks, but unlikely) and go into the season with a rotation of Sale, 2 out of the 3 of Quintana/Santiago/Danks, Johnson and Paulino. Still not a bad looking rotation depending on how Johnson progresses and Paulino recovers. Rienzo will either be kept in the minors for depth or looked to be traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I like it. He was good before he got hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 02:25 PM) Just a guess but coming off TJ surgery and being 30, my guess is the Sox convert him to a reliever. Just a hunch. Good to see more activity. I like this signing and Paulino's enthusiasm over it. Don't we already have a surplus of righty relievers as is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 03:44 PM) Don't we already have a surplus of righty relievers as is? Yes we do. After reading more on this trade that hunch was wrong as it looks like Paulino will be competition for Johnson and Rienzo. I suppose he loses the competition he could be considered for the pen. Plus who knows, we may trade a guy like Reed. The hunch is based on Paulino still needs to build his endurance back up after surgery so realistically how many IP can we expect as a starter? Edited December 9, 2013 by StRoostifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 2m Hahn also said the option for '15 on Paulino was important so they don't have to rush him back. Viewed as a starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I like it he was starting to come around in KC before he got hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Exactly the right type of move to make. Low risk, high upside. Adds depth to allow for the trade of (I hope) Santiago. Are there even any pitchers anymore who DON'T come back from TJ surgery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Dan Hayes @DanHayesCSN 6m #WhiteSox believe Felipe Paulino should be ready to help them by opening day. Had a set back in his rehab last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 They need to be back in the business of acquiring guys like Paulino (or JJ Putz in the more recent past). Too much logic to this one. I really like Santiago still, but if they're going to shore up a position in the line-up, and they feel no matter what Cooper does that Hector's going to continue to struggle with stamina and control/consistency, then fine, make your move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Watched video of him in 2012 at the royals site, pretty nasty 2 seam and curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 He was awful with Rockies a year or two ago. He pitcheld like he was hurt, and he probably was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 05:47 PM) He was awful with Rockies a year or two ago. He pitcheld like he was hurt, and he probably was. Hahn has the right approach as far as not pushing him so let's hope for a full recovery and go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 05:47 PM) He was awful with Rockies a year or two ago. He pitcheld like he was hurt, and he probably was. He only pitched 14 innings for the Rockies in 2011. He had an ERA of 4.11 with around 120 innings pitched for the Royals that same season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Money seems like a lot for what we will get...but hopefully it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 09:08 PM) Money seems like a lot for what we will get...but hopefully it works out. $2 million in the free agent market these days is chump change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 09:09 PM) $2 million in the free agent market these days is chump change. That works out to be four rookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 03:09 AM) $2 million in the free agent market these days is chump change. For sure. I just figured when I saw this it was a minor league deal. Not really complaining, he will be worth it if he makes any meaningful contribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 08:00 PM) He only pitched 14 innings for the Rockies in 2011. He had an ERA of 4.11 with around 120 innings pitched for the Royals that same season. He didn't pitch more innings with Rockies because they released him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 09:10 PM) That works out to be four rookies. Who are most likely going to be replacement level players. If Paulino is even remotely healthy, he's easily a 1-2 win starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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