BigHurt3515 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (kapzk @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:28 AM) If they do potentially land Eaton, what do we do with De Aza, he should fetch something decent right? Trade him for a catcher or 3B I assume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 If the Sox had discussed Kendrick earlier, I am guessing he is a part of the discussions now too. The hold up is satisfying the difference in values. The Sox getting Kendrick and Eaton for Santiago alone would be stupid good value. Maybe they'll be able to kick Beckham over to LAA with either side kicking an additional smaller piece back to Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:29 AM) Trade him for a catcher or 3B I assume Or he's our 4th outfielder off the bench, which is better than Danks IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Would love it if Hahn could swoop out Eaton and Davidson somehow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:28 AM) No way the Dbacks give up Davidson, Skaggs, AND Eaton for Trumbo. It's stupid enough to give up Skaggs and Eaton for him All I did was answer the question.relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:31 AM) If the Sox had discussed Kendrick earlier, I am guessing he is a part of the discussions now too. The hold up is satisfying the difference in values. The Sox getting Kendrick and Eaton for Santiago alone would be stupid good value. Maybe they'll be able to kick Beckham over to LAA with either side kicking an additional smaller piece back to Arizona. I agree man if RH was some how able to land Eaton and Kendrick for Santaigo (or Hector and another piece) I'd be giddy. We know the Jays have interest in Beckham. Maybe we trade him for some more "exciting" young players like KW mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:31 PM) Would love it if Hahn could swoop out Eaton and Davidson somehow How about sending De Aza to Dbacks for Davidson to fill the void in CF with Eaton leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:31 AM) Would love it if Hahn could swoop out Eaton and Davidson somehow That could be what's going on now, talks of what the Sox send to AZ with Santiago.maybe an arm from the pen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:31 AM) Or he's our 4th outfielder off the bench, which is better than Danks IMO. When it comes to a 4th outfielder, give me a $600,000 Danks over a $3,500,000 De Aza any day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:31 AM) Or he's our 4th outfielder off the bench, which is better than Danks IMO. De Aza on the bench? Viciedo only out slugs him by a small amount, career wise. Meanwhile ADA has him beat on ....handling LF, OBP, speed. And is a lefty bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (kapzk @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:34 AM) How about sending De Aza to Dbacks for Davidson to fill the void in CF with Eaton leaving. They have Pollock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:32 AM) All I did was answer the question.relax. Not mad, there are lots of moving parts, we would just have to add in someone else. Get it done Hahn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 The other problem is that this makes DeAza essentially worthless...nobody's going to give up anything if they know we're going to be forced to trade him and Alejandro's salary's already going up to $4.5 million or so. He's not really a bargain unless he's projected as a starting outfielder. On the bench, MEHHHH....someone might take him off our hands, but we'd get very little to nothing in return. Definitely not the best way to maximize the return our trade pieces if all we get for DeAza and Santiago is Adam Eaton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:36 AM) The other problem is that this makes DeAza essentially worthless...nobody's going to give up anything if they know we're going to be forced to trade him and Alejandro's salary's already going up to $4.5 million or so. He's not really a bargain unless he's projected as a starting outfielder. On the bench, MEHHHH....someone might take him off our hands, but we'd get very little to nothing in return. Definitely not the best way to maximize the return our trade pieces if all we get for DeAza and Santiago is Adam Eaton. Bench players routinely make $3.5 million, and the Sox aren't forced to move him. This does to hurt De Aza's value that he hasn't already done himself. I also have no idea where that $3.5 million value came from. He's going to be arbitration eligible for like the first time next year. I'm guessing he gets closer to $2-2.5 million, which, comparatively speaking, is a significant amount less. Edited December 10, 2013 by witesoxfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 FYI, Kenny said this: “We think that we are on the cusp of doing some other things that I think our fans are going to like,” White Sox executive vice president Ken Williams told MLB.com’s Scott Merkin." http://mlb.mlblogs.com/2013/12/10/white-so...rking-on-trade/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:35 AM) Not mad, there are lots of moving parts, we would just have to add in someone else. Get it done Hahn! I'm thinking maybe an arm from the pen is possible. Come on Hahn, we lost 99 games and its Xmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 This would be a hilariously dumb trade for us straight up, but I have faith in Hahn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:38 AM) FYI, Kenny said this: “We think that we are on the cusp of doing some other things that I think our fans are going to like,” White Sox executive vice president Ken Williams told MLB.com’s Scott Merkin." http://mlb.mlblogs.com/2013/12/10/white-so...rking-on-trade/ Coming from KW, I'll take that with a huge grain of salt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I love the people judging Eaton off of last year's stats. So meaningless. The kid missed the end of spring training and the first 100 games of the season, and people expect a rookie to come out of that in full stride? Personally, I'm surprised he lasted up in the bigs and scratched out a .250 average. Santiago for Eaton would be a great trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 His elbow definitely is a scary situation. Many players have had this same issue and just a matter of time turns into Tommy John Surgery: Carl Crawford, Ardoylis Vizcanio, Colby Lewis, Brett Anderson, Casey Kelly. Those are players that come to my head just right now. I would stay away from Eaton, not a true CF. Reports tend to show he's more suited for LF. Davidson is a better fit. We have a huge hole at 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:39 PM) This would be a hilariously dumb trade for us straight up, but I have faith in Hahn. It's been pretty obvious, IMO, that the Sox aren't as high on Santiago as a lot of us are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 12:38 PM) FYI, Kenny said this: “We think that we are on the cusp of doing some other things that I think our fans are going to like,” White Sox executive vice president Ken Williams told MLB.com’s Scott Merkin." http://mlb.mlblogs.com/2013/12/10/white-so...rking-on-trade/ If the DBacks are also getting 2 specs then I imagine 1 is from us, and we're getting something else back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:39 AM) This would be a hilariously dumb trade for us straight up, You're saying this off more than Eaton's 300 ML at-bats? Santiago is nice labor for the price but has anyone here honestly touted his ceiling..like at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 include De Aza to replace Eaton and give us Davidson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:40 AM) His elbow definitely is a scary situation. Many players have had this same issue and just a matter of time turns into Tommy John Surgery: Carl Crawford, Ardoylis Vizcanio, Colby Lewis, Brett Anderson, Casey Kelly. Those are players that come to my head just right now. I would stay away from Eaton, not a true CF. Reports tend to show he's more suited for LF. Davidson is a better fit. We have a huge hole at 3B. Only one of those was a position player. You expect pitchers to eventually need the surgery because their entire job is to throw. On the contrary, the MRI for Eaton suggested that it had healed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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