royoung Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Scott Merkin @scottmerkin now Eaton: "It would be great if I could hang my hat around .300, 100 runs scored and an OBP around .400. I think it’s definitely doable." Ugh, now he's throwing out projections. Kid, just go play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 10:34 AM) Scott Merkin @scottmerkin now Eaton: "It would be great if I could hang my hat around .300, 100 runs scored and an OBP around .400. I think it’s definitely doable." Ugh, now he's throwing out projections. Kid, just go play I agree. Do it first, then talk about it. But he apparently doesn't lack confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 De Aza is a left handed bat. I'm not sure why people are so quick to axe him. He can be the fourth OF or PH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhonnydanks Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 11:34 AM) Since we're talking comps... How about an OF version of Jason Kipnis? Fair? Not from a power standpoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (jhonnydanks @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 10:41 AM) Not from a power standpoint FRINGE POWER! Keith Law thinks it was possible he could hit "15 plus homers" playing at the Cell. But I guess I should of stopped after "Keith Law thinks." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 10:46 AM) FRINGE POWER! Keith Law thinks it was possible he could hit "15 plus homers" playing at the Cell. But I guess I should of stopped after "Keith Law thinks." Probably shouldn't, the dude has a pretty good eye for talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 10:46 AM) FRINGE POWER! Keith Law thinks it was possible he could hit "15 plus homers" playing at the Cell. But I guess I should of stopped after "Keith Law thinks." Is 15 homers fringe power anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 10:34 AM) Scott Merkin @scottmerkin now Eaton: "It would be great if I could hang my hat around .300, 100 runs scored and an OBP around .400. I think it's definitely doable." Ugh, now he's throwing out projections. Kid, just go play I like that he's thinking in terms of on-base though. Easier said than done for guys trying to prove themselves at the highest level, yet that's his mindset. Value the at bat. Edited December 11, 2013 by Jose Paniagua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 10:38 AM) De Aza is a left handed bat. I'm not sure why people are so quick to axe him. He can be the fourth OF or PH. $$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 01:38 AM) I know exactly what you mean. The usefulness of that kind of thinking is determining whether you should have been able to pull off an even better deal, though. The Pods and Vizcaino deal is our example of a deal that works out for everyone, but I think you could still legitimately question that deal on the basis that maybe we could have done even better for a premier hitter like Lee. We also saved a lot of money in Pods/Vizcaino-Lee trade and used it to pick up AJ, El Duque, and Iguchi. 5 huge parts to winning in 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 10:48 AM) Probably shouldn't, the dude has a pretty good eye for talent. He's higher on Eaton than most, but in this case I hope he is right. One thing I count on him for is being rationale about starting pitchers, so many people want to anoint pitchers as "aces" or even a #2 or #3 when they pitch a couple decent games in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 10:48 AM) Is 15 homers fringe power anymore? In the cell it is apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 10:48 AM) Is 15 homers fringe power anymore? Without looking it up or doing any calculations, I would guess that 15 homers would be right at or maybe even slightly higher than the Major League average for a starting position player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:10 PM) Viciedo is absolutely part of the young core. He might flame out, but he has equally as good a chance of being a premier power hitter. He has some of the best hitting tools you'll ever see. LOL-Viciedo has some of the best hitting tools you'll ever see. You need to watch some more baseball after making that observation. Edited December 11, 2013 by PolishPrince34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 10:50 AM) $$ You thinking he is gone before the end of the winter meetings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 10:34 AM) Scott Merkin @scottmerkin now Eaton: "It would be great if I could hang my hat around .300, 100 runs scored and an OBP around .400. I think it’s definitely doable." Ugh, now he's throwing out projections. Kid, just go play Those aren't projections, those are goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 11:15 AM) Those aren't projections, those are goals If he flops, you don't think anyone is going to copy and paste that quote over and over again? Put in the work each at bat, let the numbers sort themselves out. I'm glad he's cocky and I agree it's "doable," but just play the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 11:22 AM) If he flops, you don't think anyone is going to copy and paste that quote over and over again? Put in the work each at bat, let the numbers sort themselves out. I'm glad he's cocky and I agree it's "doable," but just play the game. People get mad when athletes don't say anything. People get mad when athletes are honest. It is what it is. I have no problem with him stating his goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 11:24 AM) People get mad when athletes don't say anything. People get mad when athletes are honest. It is what it is. I have no problem with him stating his goals. If he can handle the added pressure and back it up, I got no problem with him telling people whatever he damn well pleases. Just seems unnecessary, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 11:15 AM) Those aren't projections, those are goals That's how I view it. A guy like this who is acquired by a team that needs that type of player should come in with goals and a positive attitude that he can make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 It's not like it's insane, he bested those numbers by about 80 points apiece in AAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Wow, who cares what he says his goals are? I'm glad he's confident and I think he'll kill it. Is a .400 OBP ambitious? You bet. Will I be ecstatic if he actually does it? You bet your ass I will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 12:15 PM) Those aren't projections, those are goals I was going to say, how is it bad to set goals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 11:34 AM) Since we're talking comps... How about an OF version of Jason Kipnis? Fair? fewer homers and better OBP than kipnis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Also, he's good lookin' 90% of good players are also attractive Anyone else ever notice this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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