Quin Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 04:53 PM) Man that's pretty bad. Jacobs isn't the greatest but still a meaningful prospect. I assumed it was an A ball pile of crap. A bad deal even worse, slightly. Can you change your name to Santiago>Eaton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 What is Jacobs 40-man status? Is he Rule V eligible? I can't remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayan024 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB 1m Soon-to-be #Diamondbacks OF Brandon Jacobs: Auburn RB recruit, plus RH power potential but inconsistent contact, solid run, LF arm. So Whitesox give up Santiago and Jacobs to get Eaton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Jacobs doesnt sound right, PTBL or cash and its jacobs? Wow, I wouldnt have guessed him Edited December 10, 2013 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 04:54 PM) What is Jacobs 40-man status? Is he Rule V eligible? I can't remember. Not on 40, can be picked in Rule 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Ultimately, I hope this is part of a defined direction for the White Sox. The Paulie deal aside, we're gravitating towards younger, cost-controlled (for a while) players. There's no reason that a guy like Keppinger or Alexei, for example, needs to be a part of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (dayan024 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 04:55 PM) Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB 1m Soon-to-be #Diamondbacks OF Brandon Jacobs: Auburn RB recruit, plus RH power potential but inconsistent contact, solid run, LF arm. So Whitesox give up Santiago and Jacobs to get Eaton? Well, I was hoping it'd be less than Jacobs, but do what you gotta do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 02:55 PM) Jacobs doesnt sound right, PTBL or cash and its jacobs? I'm not a big fan of Jacobs. He does have tools though so a switch could flip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 04:56 PM) Ultimately, I hope this is part of a defined direction for the White Sox. The Paulie deal aside, we're gravitating towards younger, cost-controlled (for a while) players. There's no reason that a guy like Keppinger or Alexei, for example, needs to be a part of that. And players that hopefully have good OBPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 We are giving up Jacobs also? I still think we could have gotten more for Santiago but what do I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 04:56 PM) I'm not a big fan of Jacobs. He does have tools though so a switch could flip. Like Dick Allen said much earlier in this thread, part of this has to be the evaluation of Santiago by our own guys. It's never quite seemed like we were all that enamored with him. That being said, I have no clue why we needed to include Jacobs, if true. Maybe Arizona thinks they can fix him but didn't want to get him in Rule V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 04:53 PM) Man that's pretty bad. Jacobs isn't the greatest but still a meaningful prospect. I assumed it was an A ball pile of crap. A bad deal even worse, slightly. There is also talk that he's a young Lenny Dykstra, yet you seem to be avoiding those. The fact is we don't know what we have in him yet. Opinions are mixed all across the board. I'm happy they've made this sort of move to at least attempt to improve the team. Also, Brandon Jacobs hit .237/.291/.327/.618 in 176 plate appearances with the Barons, striking out 50 times in 176 PAs. For his minor league career, he's at .262/.335/.434/.769 with a 25.4% K-rate. Calling him a meaningful prospect is like calling Ryan Meaux a meaningful prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Really, the Sox took half a season to look at Brandon Jacobs and saw nothing they liked. They moved him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 So Hahn has turned... Peavy, Rios and Thornton into... Avisail, Leury, JDA, and Eaton. I'm cool with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 04:59 PM) There is also talk that he's a young Lenny Dykstra, yet you seem to be avoiding those. The fact is we don't know what we have in him yet. Opinions are mixed all across the board. I'm happy they've made this sort of move to at least attempt to improve the team. Also, Brandon Jacobs hit .237/.291/.327/.618 in 176 plate appearances with the Barons, striking out 50 times in 176 PAs. For his minor league career, he's at .262/.335/.434/.769 with a 25.4% K-rate. Calling him a meaningful prospect is like calling Ryan Meaux a meaningful prospect. He's a solid C- with some upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) We have a lot of guys that are similar to Jacobs, but he is the worst of them defensively. We have enough contact-challenged prospect OF that I don't care too much to see him go, especially as our OF is pretty crowded with cost and team-controlled players now Edited December 10, 2013 by Jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 04:59 PM) There is also talk that he's a young Lenny Dykstra, yet you seem to be avoiding those. The fact is we don't know what we have in him yet. Opinions are mixed all across the board. I'm happy they've made this sort of move to at least attempt to improve the team. Also, Brandon Jacobs hit .237/.291/.327/.618 in 176 plate appearances with the Barons, striking out 50 times in 176 PAs. For his minor league career, he's at .262/.335/.434/.769 with a 25.4% K-rate. Calling him a meaningful prospect is like calling Ryan Meaux a meaningful prospect. I'm not quite sure that people are begrudging the acquisition of Eaton. Moreso that it would seem that a young starter that has results like Hector has might seem like he'd be worth more on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 03:59 PM) There is also talk that he's a young Lenny Dykstra, yet you seem to be avoiding those. The fact is we don't know what we have in him yet. Opinions are mixed all across the board. I'm happy they've made this sort of move to at least attempt to improve the team. Also, Brandon Jacobs hit .237/.291/.327/.618 in 176 plate appearances with the Barons, striking out 50 times in 176 PAs. For his minor league career, he's at .262/.335/.434/.769 with a 25.4% K-rate. Calling him a meaningful prospect is like calling Ryan Meaux a meaningful prospect. Totally agree. Not at all enamored with Jacobs, as I assume the Sox weren't either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 03:00 PM) So Hahn has turned... Peavy, Rios and Thornton into... Avisail, Leury, JDA, and Eaton. I'm cool with that. Winner winner chicken dinner - now get the ball rolling on more new badass chisox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:00 PM) So Hahn has turned... Peavy, Rios and Thornton into.. Avisail, Leury, JDA, and Eaton. I'm cool with that. It's more like Jake Peavy, Alex Rios, Matt Thorton and Hector Santiago for Leury Garcia, Avisail Garcia, and Adam Eaton. I'm actually surprised this board is cool with that. Usually this board loves to preach the failure rate of prospects yet we traded 4 established MLBers (only one who needed to go) for 3 prospects, 2 of them very key to our future. I'd figure everyone here would prefer decent packages. If one of Garcia or Eaton fails we will be in big big trouble and odds are that probably happens unfortunately. Edited December 10, 2013 by Buehrle>Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 12:12 AM) It's more like Jake Peavy, Alex Rios, Matt Thorton and Hector Santiago for Leury Garcia, Avisail Garcia, and Adam Eaton. I'm actually surprised this board is cool with that. Usually this board loves to preach the failure rate of prospects yet we traded 4 established MLBers (only one who needed to go) for 3 prospects, 2 of them very key to are future. I'd figure everyone here would prefer decent packages. If one Garcia or Eaton fails we will be in big big trouble and odds are that probably happens unfortunately. Well said, it's far too early to judge these trades, but I'm sure if would have asked anyone on this board a year ago, they would have hoped for a heck of a lot more in return. Thankfully they were able to get Abreu with some of the money saved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:12 PM) It's more like Jake Peavy, Alex Rios, Matt Thorton and Hector Santiago for Leury Garcia, Avisail Garcia, and Adam Eaton. I'm actually surprised this board is cool with that. Usually this board loves to preach the failure rate of prospects yet we traded 4 established MLBers (only one who needed to go) for 3 prospects, 2 of them very key to our future. I'd figure everyone here would prefer decent packages. If one of Garcia or Eaton fails we will be in big big trouble and odds are that probably happens unfortunately. And we'd succeed with Peavy, Rios, Thornton and Hector? It's a low risk high reward thing we're doing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Sox have loved Eaton for a long while. IMO, he's gonna be a great fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 07:12 PM) It's more like Jake Peavy, Alex Rios, Matt Thorton and Hector Santiago for Leury Garcia, Avisail Garcia, and Adam Eaton. It's more like Jake Peavy, Alex Rios, Matt Thorton and Hector Santiago for Leury Garcia, Avisail Garcia, and Adam Eaton plus a ton of cash. We used the ton of cash and signed Abreu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:12 PM) It's more like Jake Peavy, Alex Rios, Matt Thorton and Hector Santiago for Leury Garcia, Avisail Garcia, and Adam Eaton. I'm actually surprised this board is cool with that. Usually this board loves to preach the failure rate of prospects yet we traded 4 established MLBers (only one who needed to go) for 3 prospects, 2 of them very key to our future. I'd figure everyone here would prefer decent packages. If one of Garcia or Eaton fails we will be in big big trouble and odds are that probably happens unfortunately. Why is it more like that? WE saved a ton of money allowing us to sign the best foreign bat on the market. We've started to try and build a young core that will help contend for years to come. I am guessing not many people are against that whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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