justBLAZE Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Has it been reported what the White Sox were offering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:19 AM) Also as much as I want to see ARod gone, now I have a need to see him come back next year so the Yanks are stuck paying him till his contract runs out in 2017. Oh I definitely want to see A-rod come back. He hasn't been good for awhile and after a year off and being a year older I bet he'll be even worse. I think it will be funny to watch A-rod play horribly and have the Yankees stuck paying him $25 million a year for the next three or whatever his salary is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 11:21 AM) They are paying his contract in 2015-2017 no matter what. They just got 27 million in relief when he was suspended for the 2014 season. Don't count out the legal games just yet. He's suspended outside of the collectively bargained drug program 50-100-out format. A lot of us have guessed this will give the Yankees an opportunity to attempt to void the remainder of his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:21 AM) They are paying his contract in 2015-2017 no matter what. They just got 27 million in relief when he was suspended for the 2014 season. Not if he retires. Then they still hold his rights, but he doesn't get paid. Edited January 22, 2014 by lasttriptotulsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:24 AM) Don't count out the legal games just yet. He's suspended outside of the collectively bargained drug program 50-100-out format. A lot of us have guessed this will give the Yankees an opportunity to attempt to void the remainder of his contract. I absolutely expect it to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I wonder if gov. Cuomo will accept Tanaka as a New Yorker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Boys and girls, take solace in the fact that while we're various shades of bummed here, there's genuine mourning in Wrigleyville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:28 AM) Boys and girls, take solace in the fact that while we're various shades of bummed here, there's genuine mourning in Wrigleyville. I was always told on television and radio everyone wanted to play for the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:22 AM) Regarding the local market share, this is tied for the second best outcome. Signing him instead of the Cubs would have been huge, but the Cubs not signing him further increases animosity and disinterest in the Cubs for Chicago baseball fans and, if the Sox are good in the next couple years, it will increase interest and market share in Chicago. I am sure the north side is in meltdown with this as another failure up there under Theo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:29 AM) I am sure the north side is in meltdown with this as another failure up there under Theo. If Theo is good at anything, it is back-breakingly bad FA contracts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:24 AM) Not if he retires. Then they still hold his rights, but he doesn't get paid. There isn't a chance in hell Alex Rodriguez retires. His whole "defense" through the process has been about preserving his contract. That won't change now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I'm pretty sure whether they have to pay him or not, ARod is done playing for the Yankees, and unless a guy like Loria wants to make him some sort of zoo attraction, is probably done playing MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 09:29 AM) I was always told on television and radio everyone wanted to play for the Cubs. Well, this is just another meathook reality that Theo has to face - easy to sell a team that's "knocking on the door" to FA's as Boston was when he got there, vs. a team in a long-term losing stretch. Another consequence of the "total rebuild" that many don't account for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:28 AM) Boys and girls, take solace in the fact that while we're various shades of bummed here, there's genuine mourning in Wrigleyville. Hey let's also remember that we still have a chance at Chone Figgins, who is still available. Signing him should make us forget all about the Japanese guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:32 AM) I'm pretty sure whether they have to pay him or not, ARod is done playing for the Yankees, and unless a guy like Loria wants to make him some sort of zoo attraction, is probably done playing MLB. He might not play again, but he won't walk away from his money. No chance of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:29 AM) I am sure the north side is in meltdown with this as another failure up there under Theo. And I'm not sure they were all that close to landing him. The Cubs dont have that kind of money regardless what their fans think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:38 AM) He might not play again, but he won't walk away from his money. No chance of that. I agree, but to me the Yankees either are able to void the contract or will wind up releasing him. Then I really wonder if ARod would even bother looking to continue to play, but considering he is talking about showing up for spring training, I'm thinking he might. If he does, I would think a team trying to win wouldn't need the circus and distraction a 40 year old guy who hasn't hardly played for a couple of years would bring, but a guy like Loria would probably sign ARod to the minimum, let him play in his hometown, and try to draw people to the freak show. If is contract gets terminated, I think he's probably done and will spend the next few years fighting it in court. If he ultimately gets released, then I think there is a chance he would play for peanuts elsewhere while collecting on the contract, as long as someone is willing to take him. Edited January 22, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 04:30 PM) If Theo is good at anything, it is back-breakingly bad FA contracts Was going to say, if there was anything Theo is terrible at it's contracts like these. They dodged a bullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:49 AM) Was going to say, if there was anything Theo is terrible at it's contracts like these. They dodged a bullet. The Crane Kenny goofball that holds a high position with the Cubs stated this past weekend that the rebuild could take the rest of this decade. LMAO, that's 6 years. One problem is the rooftop owners apparently are holding the Wrigley makeover hostage. The Cubs won't start until they sign something saying they won't sue. Those owners are heroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:42 AM) And I'm not sure they were all that close to landing him. The Cubs dont have that kind of money regardless what their fans think. I doubt they were close. Nothing about the north side made sense unless they WAY outbidded everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:47 AM) I agree, but to me the Yankees either are able to void the contract or will wind up releasing him. Then I really wonder if ARod would even bother looking to continue to play, but considering he is talking about showing up for spring training, I'm thinking he might. If he does, I would think a team trying to win wouldn't need the circus and distraction a 40 year old guy who hasn't hardly played for a couple of years would bring, but a guy like Loria would probably sign ARod to the minimum, let him play in his hometown, and try to draw people to the freak show. If is contract gets terminated, I think he's probably done and will spend the next few years fighting it in court. If he ultimately gets released, then I think there is a chance he would play for peanuts elsewhere while collecting on the contract, as long as someone is willing to take him. Odds are pretty good of that. I am sure Alex's lawyers already have the lawsuit ready to go for when teh Yankees try to void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 10:54 AM) The Crane Kenny goofball that holds a high position with the Cubs stated this past weekend that the rebuild could take the rest of this decade. LMAO, that's 6 years. One problem is the rooftop owners apparently are holding the Wrigley makeover hostage. The Cubs won't start until they sign something saying they won't sue. Those owners are heroes. He also gave those dopes an hour presentation on who he was and what he's done via powerpoint. I would bet quite a bit that we were higher up Tanakas list than the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Jose de Jesus Ortiz @OrtizKicks 6m Luhnow, Crane and Roger Clemens were part of Astros group who met with Tanaka before Astros made an offer. Astros were 1st to meet w him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 09:32 AM) Really the only time it's worth mentioning state income tax in regards to professional contracts such as these is when a player goes to a state like Texas or Florida that has no income tax. Then roughly half their contract is state income tax free and that can be significant, but if you're talking a state being a couple percentage points higher than another it really doesn't make much difference to a player when they're making the kind of money they're making. There are also "short term employment taxes" in many cities. This is when you work in the city or county for less than a week there are added taxes. This is in addition to the normal taxes. This is targeted at sports teams obviously. I hated them when I worked in the leagues because we didn't make as much but still had those dumb taxes taken out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Jayson Stark @jaysonst 2h Tanaka has thrown 1,315 IP in Japan. Only pitchers to do that by age 24 in MLB in last 50 years: Bert Blyleven, Larry Dierker, Frank Tanana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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