witesoxfan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (woods of ypres @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 12:20 PM) Whoosh It was a joke, with the real reason in parentheses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 12:57 PM) This is what I am thinking to. Except for the fact he'd only be making 10 mil next year. I'd prefer something more front loaded but obviously that isn't then norm in baseball. Our FO probably needs a little help in the first year of this deal with Dunn & the INTL bonus/draft stuff. We should have more payroll space next year and if we're a better team in 2014 then we won't get the same draft & signing bonus pool amounts. Front loaded would be great though, go Marlins style and trade the deal for value later on. Watch the attendance & ticket sales & concessions spike, then as things wane make a trade & get out of the remainder of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Please no at that money. I think spending any more than about $30M on this guy will end up being a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:02 PM) Player options for that amount of money are such a disaster no matter what. If he sucks you're saddled with 25 million. If he's good he's opting out. Nothing is likely to work out for the team. I'd go maybe one option but definitely not 2. Agree. That deal could be horrible. But getting through 150+ pages of this thing with no Tanaka would be equally horrible (okay not really). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:03 PM) How many of the players they were in play for were 25? Did they have a glut of prospects with ETAs of '14 and '15 before? It's all about age and timing. Tanaka should be stepping into his prime years next season. Putting huge money into an unknown FA at the same time relying on unproven prospects is a really risky idea. If the Cubs payroll is $100mil, theyd be putting roughly 20% into a player who has never pitched an inning in MLB and still have to find another 20+ players to actually be a contender. It would make more sense if this was 2015/16 and the Cubs were a piece or 2 away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Is signing PK, Abreu, and Tanaka plus trading for Avi Garcia, Adam Eaton, and Matt Davidson enough to get an early season attendance boost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:05 PM) Please no at that money. I think spending any more than about $30M on this guy will end up being a mistake. Um...the posting fee alone is $20M. Or even if you are only talking about the contract, $30M is like 1.5 years of his potential contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:10 PM) Is signing PK, Abreu, and Tanaka plus trading for Avi Garcia, Adam Eaton, and Matt Davidson enough to get an early season attendance boost? Speaking for myself, yes! I will pack up the family and make the 3 hour drive through traffic to put my money where my mouth is. Plus I am excited to see the new players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (dayan024 @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 12:42 PM) Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 12m One official involved in the Masahiro Tanaka bidding believes the winning contract is going to fall somewhere in the six-year, $120M range. Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 3m For what it's worth, plenty of the rumors -- which most believe are spurious -- have the Cubs in as the high bidder, blowing away the field. I find it hard to believe that a 6/$120M contract blows away the field. My guess is that all of the bids are close to those numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:06 PM) Agree. That deal could be horrible. But getting through 150+ pages of this thing with no Tanaka would be equally horrible (okay not really). The odds of the Sox getting Tanaka are very, very small. I'd call it 5% or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:07 PM) If we're still projected to be in the 85-89 million range we can add 25 million an be under last year's OD payroll. Before someone says something about attendance being down let's just say 25 mil from TV rights cancels out loss of attendance. And that still leaves an extra $10 million in amateur spending that isn't accounted for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:10 PM) Is signing PK, Abreu, and Tanaka plus trading for Avi Garcia, Adam Eaton, and Matt Davidson enough to get an early season attendance boost? I bought a 27 game package this year, which I've never done. So maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:10 PM) Is signing PK, Abreu, and Tanaka plus trading for Avi Garcia, Adam Eaton, and Matt Davidson enough to get an early season attendance boost? The moves that Hahn has made have probably increased the games ill go to this year from 1-3 to 5-8 already. Add in Tanaka and i'd probably consider a few more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Yawn. This thread is officially the worst in Soxtalk history. Even my attempts to resurrect it with my little pony magic sprinkles have gone unsuccessful. Bottom line is, we've got some new kids that will require patience as they learn the offseason ways. That and twitter can be a god awful thing. Brown and green mushy poop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayan024 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) David Schuster @Schumouse 4m The YES Network in NY is reporting that it's down to the Yankees and the Cubs for Tanaka YES Network @YESNetwork 1h Report: Japanese pitcher Masahiro Tanaka (@t_masahiro18) now deciding between the @Yankees & @Cubs: http://yesnet.me/1jl008V Edited January 21, 2014 by dayan024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:17 PM) The odds of the Sox getting Tanaka are very, very small. I'd call it 5% or less. I'd say the odds of us getting him are more like 70% if he decides not to go to LAD or Yankees! Don't be such a downer dude. Hahn's got this. Here's how I would rank our chances vs. our competitors in bar graph form: Theo: 8=> Cashman: 8=====> Magic Johnson: 8==================> Towers: 8============> Kenny & Rick: 8==============================================>~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (dayan024 @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:26 PM) David Schuster @Schumouse 4m The YES Network in NY is reporting that it's down to the Yankees and the Cubs for Tanaka While it may be accurate, the source is a Yankee blogger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosoxtim Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (dayan024 @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:26 PM) David Schuster @Schumouse 4m The YES Network in NY is reporting that it's down to the Yankees and the Cubs for Tanaka YES Network @YESNetwork 1h Report: Japanese pitcher Masahiro Tanaka (@t_masahiro18) now deciding between the @Yankees & @Cubs: http://yesnet.me/1jl008V Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 hahaha....The Yes Network using Tom Loxas....how low can you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (dayan024 @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:26 PM) David Schuster @Schumouse 4m The YES Network in NY is reporting that it's down to the Yankees and the Cubs for Tanaka YES Network @YESNetwork 1h Report: Japanese pitcher Masahiro Tanaka (@t_masahiro18) now deciding between the @Yankees & @Cubs: http://yesnet.me/1jl008V BS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think there's been enough discussion about the rumors and supposed news via Twitter that we can all agree that no one in the US, let alone a bunch of bloggers, knows what Tanaka is thinking right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 11:35 AM) Well, the last part's easy - they don't eat red meat. I had a Japanese roommate several years ago and he told me they ate horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) If you want to feel like an insider tweet your sources say it's down to the Dodgers, Yankees and Cubs. Pretty good chance you will be correct, and then you will be able to post BS for years, and people will believe you. Someone will always point out you had the Tanaka stuff spot on. Edited January 21, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:28 PM) hahaha....The Yes Network using Tom Loxas....how low can you go Cubs fans using the report to verify the same dumb source is even lower. BTW if Tanaka doesn't sign here then it means he probably sucks & is going to blow out his arm, which makes it a good thing that we'd have avoided the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:28 PM) I'd say the odds of us getting him are more like 70% if he decides not to go to LAD or Yankees! Don't be such a downer dude. Hahn's got this. Here's how I would rank our chances vs. our competitors in bar graph form: Theo: 8=> Cashman: 8=====> Magic Johnson: 8==================> Towers: 8============> Kenny & Rick: 8==============================================>~~~~~~~~ So if you eliminate the obvious choices, the odds for the less obvious choices go up. You need a twitter handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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