witesoxfan Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 This makes sense, and at that price, it's for the best. Fits pretty much everything I touched on. -High annual salary? Check -Opt out after 4 years? Check -7th year if no opt out? Check This is the deal that makes the most financial sense for him. I never would have guaranteed a 7th year, so that is likely the difference between the Sox offer and the Yankees offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 At that cost, no thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Ya no thanks on the 7 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 08:45 AM) Eh, he's gonna suck anyway. #bitter Even if he maxes out on his "potential," he's viewed as a step below Darvish and he just got the 5th highest contract for a pitcher EVER. NO THANKS. I would of been ecstatic for 6 for 120. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 With the posting fee, that averages out to $25 million for 7 years. That is an asinine number to guarantee a guy that has never pitched in the Major Leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Props to all those who fooled themselves into believing Sox were higher than the Yankees on Tanaka's destination list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 08:49 AM) Props to all those who fooled themselves into believing Sox were higher than the Yankees on Tanaka's destination list. Whose to say they weren't at one time? Money talks. This deal is probably at least $35 million more than the Sox were willing to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 That's a shame. Atleast we tried. That's going to be a lot of pressure for the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (Downtown518 @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 08:41 AM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal BREAKING: Tanaka to #Yankees, seven years, $155M, opt-out after fourth year. What a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Yeah, good luck to him in NY. That would not have been a good contract for the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 08:44 AM) That would not have been a good contract for the Sox, so the Yankees can have him. Not good for anyone who doesnt have unlimited cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 08:51 AM) Whose to say they weren't at one time? Money talks. This deal is probably at least $35 million more than the Sox were willing to go. Exactly that is an irrelevant sentiment. If we offered 6 and 120 and they offered 7 and 155, where would you go? I would bet you anything we just got outbid. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 So Tanaka needs to be a 5+ WAR pitcher for 7 years for the Yankees to get their moneys worth. I don't like the odds of that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 08:49 AM) Props to all those who fooled themselves into believing Sox were higher than the Yankees on Tanaka's destination list. I never thought the Sox would be able to match what the Yankees would. My guess is that the Yankees' offer was way above and beyond the other teams' offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 08:53 AM) So Tanaka needs to be a 5+ WAR pitcher for 7 years for the Yankees to get their moneys worth. I don't like the odds of that happening. At least. He needs to best Darvish essentially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Too bad. Now I hope he sucks. The problem with the 4 year opt out is then it basically costs you $5 million extra per year with the posting fee. Hopefully in a few years Tanaka will look back and say he should have signed with the White Sox, but the Yankees were desperate. They probably would have paid him whatever it took. I like the White Sox agressiveness, and Hahn is either a great actor or really thought he had a shot. This bodes well for the future IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 That puts NYY at around $205-210M payroll for this year. The only thing worse than giving a huge contract is to double it by paying luxury taxes on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 08:54 AM) At least. He needs to best Darvish essentially. Isn't the general consensus amongst scouts that Tanaka is even a step below Darvish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 08:54 AM) Too bad. Now I hope he sucks. The problem with the 4 year opt out is then it basically costs you $5 million extra per year with the posting fee. Hopefully in a few years Tanaka will look back and say he should have signed with the White Sox, but the Yankees were desperate. They probably would have paid him whatever it took. I like the White Sox agressiveness, and Hahn is either a great actor or really thought he had a shot. This bodes well for the future IMO. I dont think our offer was in the 7 year range IMO. That was probably only the Yanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 08:49 AM) Props to all those who fooled themselves into believing Sox were higher than the Yankees on Tanaka's destination list. Who was fooled? The White Sox flat out said if it comes down to money they will not get him. The cubs were the one's that said they would not be outbid. I think the Sox ended up around 5 years $100M not enough to outbid teams but if was not about money they had a shot did some work and it did not work out. He was an ideal for what they need at this time as he was for every other team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 08:55 AM) Isn't the general consensus amongst scouts that Tanaka is even a step below Darvish? Yep, supposedly. Supply and demand I guess. Shows you how great of a bargain we got on Abreu IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 08:54 AM) Too bad. Now I hope he sucks. The problem with the 4 year opt out is then it basically costs you $5 million extra per year with the posting fee. Hopefully in a few years Tanaka will look back and say he should have signed with the White Sox, but the Yankees were desperate. They probably would have paid him whatever it took. I like the White Sox agressiveness, and Hahn is either a great actor or really thought he had a shot. This bodes well for the future IMO. Yep. If the money is divided up evenly over the 7 years and Tanaka opts out after 4, they Yankees essentially would be paying him $27 million per year. Edited January 22, 2014 by lasttriptotulsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Good thing Tanaka's wifes LA pop career figured in so much to this. And the close travel to Japan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 08:54 AM) Too bad. Now I hope he sucks. The problem with the 4 year opt out is then it basically costs you $5 million extra per year with the posting fee. Hopefully in a few years Tanaka will look back and say he should have signed with the White Sox, but the Yankees were desperate. They probably would have paid him whatever it took. I like the White Sox agressiveness, and Hahn is either a great actor or really thought he had a shot. This bodes well for the future IMO. I bet the Yankees just upped their bid when Close asked them to and the Sox weren't willing to go the extra year/cash. And I don't blame Hahn, that is ridiculous amount of money for him. 6 for 120 would of been a lot but reasonable, this was too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 If you would have said "pick one" between Abreu and Tanaka, at equal contracts. I choose Abreu. This offseason has been awesome regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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