witesoxfan Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 03:27 PM) Well, he's a recovering addict, divorced, and likely paying child support. As much as I was pissed about his attitude in 2009-2010, I'm not going to be a dick and say "you should be able to handle that check,bobby". I'm also guessing, though I'm not certain on this whatsoever, that there is some sort of lesser health insurance policy set up by MLB in the event that you were injured as a player. I'm guessing that is helping to pay for some of it. Like I said, I sign him because maybe he has a chance to come back and be a valuable pitcher eventually. I'm not signing him because he's poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I want him back, but the poor guy should probably hang it up with back problems. I wonder if he could be a good color commentator, though he's already been out of the news a long time and has been forgotten in baseball outside of Chicago I'd bet. Back problems make me cringe just thinking about the pain he'll be having if he starts dealing again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 03:41 PM) I want him back, but the poor guy should probably hang it up with back problems. I wonder if he could be a good color commentator, though he's already been out of the news a long time and has been forgotten in baseball outside of Chicago I'd bet. Back problems make me cringe just thinking about the pain he'll be having if he starts dealing again. This quote is why I just can't see a come back... "It was like laying on your side and having a semi ride over the top of your head," Jenks said of the pain. He returned to his then-Arizona home following the surgery, sat down on his couch and said he felt a feeling like someone was pouring a bottle of water down his back. That water was spinal fluid. "Just exploded out from the incision," Jenks said. "There was a chance that if I would have gone to bed that night, I wouldn't have woken up." If this were me, I'd be happy I'm not in a wheel chair or worse. I wouldn't even be thinking of a come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 The dude used to throw 100mph. I'll be happy to give it a whirl if he can throw in the 90s again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 With the offspeed stuff, Big Bad Bobby wouldn't have to light the gun on fire to be an effective reliever anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 The guy made 26M in his career. After the government gets their 40% slave cut, that's still 14M or so that he'd have to blow to be broke. Although with things these days I would not be shocked to hear he was in debt and owing child support etc after a divorce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 03:27 PM) Well, he's a recovering addict, divorced, and likely paying child support. As much as I was pissed about his attitude in 2009-2010, I'm not going to be a dick and say "you should be able to handle that check,bobby". Right, and besides, I imagine the MLBPA offers pretty good health insurance. Courts can take your money away fast, so can poor investments. The world is full of snakes and athletes with money are easy prey. Also I imagine it's easy to rack some pretty big interest payments when you're traveling 82 games per season & your "home" city isn't where your family lives. Players making that kind of change probably have some pretty incredible spending limits & I bet it's pretty easy to charge hotels, meals at upscale restaurants, gratuity, personal trainers and other services, etc. But I guess in wite's world athletes should just eat at Denny's more often instead of joining the team out, and tip like Scottie Pippen - who also had little trouble losing lots of money. Yeah. JR knows all this stuff & he looks after his guys. That's a wonderful thing & is the extreme other end of the Reinsdorf Loyalty Leash which keeps people like Ozzie, Wilder, and Krause around too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) If Bobby is out of money, and there is no indication he is, he's living in Malibu, he only has to look in the mirror. He made $26 million. Say the government and other obligations gets half, that's $13 million. Say he blew half, that's living a pretty good life, that leaves $6.5 million. Say his wife gets half, he still has over $3 million. That's ultraconsevative with no investments, just burning money. I find it next to impossible insurance isn't paying his medical bills. He was a major league player when this all went down. How many people here have $3 million in the bank and need a handout? I'm pretty sure if the choice was $3 million or your current bank balance, most here would take the $3 million. Edited January 16, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 07:48 AM) The guy made 26M in his career. After the government gets their 40% slave cut, that's still 14M or so that he'd have to blow to be broke. Although with things these days I would not be shocked to hear he was in debt and owing child support etc after a divorce. Exactly. I refuse to feel sorry for a multi-millionaire that didn't spend or invest their money wisely. There are people out there divorced and paying child support on a much smaller salary not to mension the people losing their jobs, their homes etc due to a tough economy, so Boof***inhoo. I wish bobby well but these we're decisions he made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 There are no indications that Bobby is out of money. He should be back because he's one of us & because he could be a useful player should he make it back on the field. QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 02:21 PM) Exactly. I refuse to feel sorry for a multi-millionaire that didn't spend or invest their money wisely. There are people out there divorced and paying child support on a much smaller salary not to mension the people losing their jobs, their homes etc due to a tough economy, so Boof***inhoo. I wish bobby well but these we're decisions he made. I can't respect this argument at all, no offense Mr. Roostifer. It's a scale argument that negates context. If you're generally a good person and you make a bad choice that you end up suffering from because you lack knowledge and/or experience (perspective gained from age perhaps), or because you take something for granted, or because you woefully misinterpret or underestimate the repercussions of your actions, then why should empathy be withheld and reserved for only those in the poorest of circumstances? That makes no sense to me, at least not if you're trying to be fair. Athletes, sure, they make a lot of money, but people who based on genetics or upbringing or whatever are more likely develop dependency issues are also going to be likelier to become dependent as a consequence of the extremely special circumstances that athletes are surrounded by like lots of money to blow, lots of people offering you drugs/alcohol, lots of attention and fame, and tons of extra pressure to perform. And youth as well, and the pressure to make adult decisions with a potentially inebriated young mind. For example, I don't think it's fair to condemn Chris Farley for killing himself through drug and alcohol use while feeling empathetic for the guy down the street who does the same exact thing under different circumstances. Yes Chris Farley had lots of money, but he also couldn't (if I may quote Eminem here) take a s*** without someone standing by it. OTOH the guy down the street didn't have to deal with the pressures of groupies and fans sticking drugs in his face every time he went out in public, but pressures at home based on the figure in the bank account, which wasn't an issue with Farley, was motivation for him to abuse his body just the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Let him come back! Big bad Bobby Jenks! I would love to see it, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I mean if the dude is willing to take a minor league contract and can legitimately show that he deserves to be back in the bigs, why not with us? If he sucks, let him retire. Sometimes people need closure and sometimes stories like this have happy endings. It's no risk and could be a decent reward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy esposito Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 12:00 AM) I mean i the dude is willing to take a minor league contract and can legitimately show that he deserves to be back in the bigs, why not with us? If he sucks, let him retire. Sometimes people need closure and sometimes stories like this have happy endings. It's no risk and could be a decent reward. Who wouldn't want to root for a Jenks comeback. He was a White Sox success story. If there is a part 2 we should definitely be a part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 01:00 AM) I mean if the dude is willing to take a minor league contract and can legitimately show that he deserves to be back in the bigs, why not with us? If he sucks, let him retire. Sometimes people need closure and sometimes stories like this have happy endings. It's no risk and could be a decent reward. It could depend a lot on personal issues too. If he has the same issues that people have suggested the team helped cover up for him in his later years with the Sox, you could put him on the minor league team and actually have that hurt the development of those minor leaguers. So it's not "no risk", it'd be the same reason the Angels let him go in that case. I'd be happy to give him a shot but from the GM's chair I'd want to sit down and talk to the man about how stuff went down the last time first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 This board has changed a lot in a few years. I love the Bobby love! Remember when I almost got suspended over my Bobby love? People telling me to give it a rest, et. all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 02:33 PM) This board has changed a lot in a few years. I love the Bobby love! Remember when I almost got suspended over my Bobby love? People telling me to give it a rest, et. all? Time heals all wounds. Note that no one is saying they want him as a closer, because then we would get upset. This same ideology is also directed at a certain Venezuelan born mustachioed manager who were number 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 03:40 PM) Time heals all wounds. Note that no one is saying they want him as a closer, because then we would get upset. This same ideology is also directed at a certain Venezuelan born mustachioed manager who were number 13. Also a big difference between $25k and $10 million a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 02:42 PM) Also a big difference between $25k and $10 million a year. Also very true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 02:17 PM) If Bobby is out of money, and there is no indication he is, he's living in Malibu, he only has to look in the mirror. He made $26 million. Say the government and other obligations gets half, that's $13 million. Say he blew half, that's living a pretty good life, that leaves $6.5 million. Say his wife gets half, he still has over $3 million. That's ultraconsevative with no investments, just burning money. I find it next to impossible insurance isn't paying his medical bills. He was a major league player when this all went down. How many people here have $3 million in the bank and need a handout? I'm pretty sure if the choice was $3 million or your current bank balance, most here would take the $3 million. well, he's no longer under a contract. i think the team health care plan ends when you are not on the roster. which is why i see someone like jerry floating a minor league deal on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 02:33 PM) This board has changed a lot in a few years. I love the Bobby love! Remember when I almost got suspended over my Bobby love? People telling me to give it a rest, et. all? I don't think anyone hated Bobby, he just wasn't a $10M closer anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 04:18 PM) well, he's no longer under a contract. i think the team health care plan ends when you are not on the roster. which is why i see someone like jerry floating a minor league deal on him. If it did, I am sure he had COBRA or some sort of alternate coverage. This is no doubt union coverage and I think very unlikely he is paying any medical bills. Edited January 17, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 05:47 PM) If it did, I am sure he had COBRA or some sort of alternate coverage. Didn't he have enough service time in the majors to qualify for the players union "for life" benefits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 04:49 PM) Didn't he have enough service time in the majors to qualify for the players union "for life" benefits? I don't think so. Isnt it 7 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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