lord chas Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I was convinced that Borchard would be a star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saabturbografx Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I refused to call him Paco..he was always Norberto Martin in my heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Luis Terrero Nick Masset Adam Dunn Lastings Milledge Jose Quintana I thought they could have given Milledge some more time than they did. Also, I didn't think Chris Sale would be a realistic Cy Young Award candidate for any other reason than a fluke season (probably early on in his career before hitters figured him out or before a brush fire mistakenly attacked him), and certainly not more than once. I think he's coming off the second consecutive season that he was a legitimate contender, so I'm thrilled that I was nowhere near right about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I thought Jeremy Reed was the future of CF. I thought Josh Fields was a big time slugger. I loved the Dunn signing. I hated the McCarthy/Danks trade, I actually shed a tear in anger (Bmac was my 15-year-old self's favorite player). I thought Matsuzaka was going to change baseball with his gyroball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Oh, Charlie Haeger too, although that was more a product of me thinking it would be cool to have a Wakefield-esque spot in the rotation than actually believing that he was Timmy 2.0 - think of all the verbal treasure the tv viewer would be treated to by Hawk as the number of passed balls per outing inevitably multiplied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I was pretty mad when we traded Rowand to Philly for Thome in midst of a WS honeymoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I thought letting Thome go was a good move... I loved the Chris Young trade! Waiting to hear from the people that said Gordo should be hitting 3rd...or would be our #3 hitter very soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 QUOTE (Wanne @ Jan 18, 2014 -> 03:41 PM) I thought letting Thome go was a good move... I loved the Chris Young trade! Waiting to hear from the people that said Gordo should be hitting 3rd...or would be our #3 hitter very soon! I thought Beckham was going to do for our lineup what Mauer did for Minnesotas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Wanne @ Jan 18, 2014 -> 02:41 PM) I thought letting Thome go was a good move... I loved the Chris Young trade! Waiting to hear from the people that said Gordo should be hitting 3rd...or would be our #3 hitter very soon! There were a lot of people really excited about him but that was to be expected. Beckham - if you take into consideration the polish, the ceiling, the fact that he was as close to MLB-ready as probably anyone in that draft, the skill position - he may have been the best prospect we've had in god knows how long. It's hard not to be excited about that. I argued against trading him for Adrian Gonzalez when Gonzalez had 2 years and only something like $10M remaining on his deal. I don't feel bad about that though, every once in a while you have to hold on to someone at the risk of getting burned, but I do feel bad about other things, like my pre-2005 thoughts of Joe Crede for example. Edited January 18, 2014 by The Ultimate Champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I thought that Sale would have broken down by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 This one time I said this: So very doubting this will happen. We're not there yet -- not to the point where we blow our cash, no matter how tempting it might be. It seems like a player of this sort posts every year or two so the opportunity will come. It just doesn't seem to jive with the whole "young AND inexpensive" thing. Heck, even a borderline-blockbuster contract like Abreu's might be a cost-effective down the road, whereas $120MM+ to sign Tanaka is not likely to carry the same value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jan 18, 2014 -> 12:36 AM) I thought Jeremy Reed was the future of CF. You thought? YOU THOUGHT?!?! I have an autographed baseball when I went to a Barons game just before I joined this board, knightni sent me a card of his after I nearly won the PTC game and had the man's name as my screen name for years on this site (J.Reedfan8) because I was convinced he was going to be a star. I've been right and wrong about numerous prospects in the past, but I was dead wrong on Reed. (although I always felt Seattle's hitting coach ruined his mechanics the next season after he got his cup of coffee and performed very well) I guess I let what I seen as a youngster get to my head with numerous guys, especially him. (although I was totally right about Chris Young, sorry Jason ) I was wrong about Swisher as well as Danny Richar being potentially good. And I see noone here yet is willing to talk about the Brandon Allen trade huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 05:19 PM) Not Sox related, but I guaranteed that LeBron would not sign with the Miami Heat to be D-Wade's b****. I'm pretty sure I'll never forget your stance on that. I wish you had been right. Um, there's lots of things I have been wrong about. But one for sure is that I loved acquiring Nick Swisher. Was really pumped about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I thought Alexei Ramirez was going to hit 25 home runs a year and be a perennial MVP candidate. I also thought Dayan viciedo could hit a baseball through a brick wall. This still may happen. It is up to abreau now to appease my love hate relationship with Cuban whitesox players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jan 19, 2014 -> 01:22 AM) You thought? YOU THOUGHT?!?! I have an autographed baseball when I went to a Barons game just before I joined this board, knightni sent me a card of his after I nearly won the PTC game and had the man's name as my screen name for years on this site (J.Reedfan8) because I was convinced he was going to be a star. I've been right and wrong about numerous prospects in the past, but I was dead wrong on Reed. (although I always felt Seattle's hitting coach ruined his mechanics the next season after he got his cup of coffee and performed very well) I guess I let what I seen as a youngster get to my head with numerous guys, especially him. (although I was totally right about Chris Young, sorry Jason ) I was wrong about Swisher as well as Danny Richar being potentially good. And I see noone here yet is willing to talk about the Brandon Allen trade huh? FWIW, I never had any problem trading Brandon Allen. I didn't like Pena but he had value and was not a terrible pitcher at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Dan Hudson trade, I HATED it. Back in high school (when I lived in Michigan) I would read all the fluff pieces on whitesox.com and really believe them. It's all I had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I argued like f*** over the Brandon Allen deal. He was a solid offensive prospect with huge raw power from the left side, took walks, and was progressing through the system. I personally liked him. We traded him for an arb-eligible reliever who couldn't retire opposite side batters who also was a failed closer. Basically he was an expensive righty specialist who, if he did suddenly became very good, was going to be immediately paid by the arb system. The deal was a dumb one to make but, because we traded an unproven player, it didn't end up hurting. My main problem with that deal wasn't trading Brandon Allen, it was the return, and the idea that if you can't get a better return than that then you don't make a deal, keep the prospect. It's one of the few Kenny moves I didn't like at the time & still don't now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jan 20, 2014 -> 09:23 AM) I argued like f*** over the Brandon Allen deal. He was a solid offensive prospect with huge raw power from the left side, took walks, and was progressing through the system. I personally liked him. We traded him for an arb-eligible reliever who couldn't retire opposite side batters who also was a failed closer. Basically he was an expensive righty specialist who, if he did suddenly became very good, was going to be immediately paid by the arb system. The deal was a dumb one to make but, because we traded an unproven player, it didn't end up hurting. My main problem with that deal wasn't trading Brandon Allen, it was the return, and the idea that if you can't get a better return than that then you don't make a deal, keep the prospect. It's one of the few Kenny moves I didn't like at the time & still don't now. I generally agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Brandon Allen trade I was right on the money about. I thought Olivo would be better than he was, I also thought Flowers would be worth something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 A similar deal (but a much more reasonable one at the time because it happened in '06 when the pen was a mess) was the Mike MacDougal for Dan Cortes deal. Cortes was an interesting guy in our system (I believe he was used more as a reliever) who converted to a full-time starting role in the Royals system and became their best pitching prospect. Cortes was where some people here saw Holmberg a little while ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 ^Funny though, how Sox fans regarded the MacDougal-Cortes deal back then may be similar to how Jays fans regard the Frasor-Webb/Jaye deal now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The only prospect that has really bit KW in the ass by sending away is Gio. Gio had a ton of critics on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 It's funny how SoxTalk is so revisionist when it comes to Gio too. He had questions for sure. Even at our weakest point we still didn't unanimously consider Gio our best pitching prospect; McCarthy, Danks, and Fautino DeLosSantos were all ranked over him & considered to be more exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 20, 2014 -> 09:39 AM) The only prospect that has really bit KW in the ass by sending away is Gio. Gio had a ton of critics on this board. He was my second favorite prospect ever after Reed. He was fun to watch. I was right about him though. (and I'm sure others here were as well, namely JPN) Just thought that Swisher deal was a win-win for both teams.. whoops. I remember some didn't want to see Clayton Richard traded. Edited January 20, 2014 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jan 20, 2014 -> 09:36 AM) A similar deal (but a much more reasonable one at the time because it happened in '06 when the pen was a mess) was the Mike MacDougal for Dan Cortes deal. Cortes was an interesting guy in our system (I believe he was used more as a reliever) who converted to a full-time starting role in the Royals system and became their best pitching prospect. Cortes was where some people here saw Holmberg a little while ago. I recall people being upset about losing Lumsden. Looking back at his numbers, I have no idea why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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