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[The Ultimate Champion]

agrees with the research it is still an interesting thing to read given where we stand with controversial deliveries from the likes of Sale and Danish, and here also as we sit waiting on word of Tanaka and also considering where we will sit this next June wondering about taking a pitcher with our #3 pick.

 

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/10/23/...g-biomechanics/

[ptatc]

Fleisig is the number one guy for pitching research and has been for awhile. I agree with part of the article in that one of the primary problems is when pitchers try to throw too hard too often. When they make a effort to really add velocity it puts too much stress on the arm regardless of mechanics. This is part of Cooper's success. How many times have we heard that he stresses decrease velocity for increased movement.

Edited January 20, 2014 by ptatc

[southsider2k5]

Fleisig is the number guy for pitching research and has been for awhile. I agree with part of the article in that one of the primary problems is when pitchers try to throw too hard too often. When they make a effort to really add velocity it puts too much stress on the arm regardless of mechanics. This is part of Cooper's success. How many times have we heard that he stresses decrease velocity for increased movement.

 

And control. It is no coincidence that our best pitcher of the last 20 years threw slower than most people drive on 294.

[Balta1701]

And control. It is no coincidence that our best pitcher of the last 20 years threw slower than most people drive on 294.

Shingo?

[elrockinMT]

Shingo?

 

LOL! I saw Shingo pitch in 2005 in Denver versus the Rockies and a Rockies player swung as hard as he possibly could have at that slow pitch and missed, lost hs bat which went flying and hen he slammed his helmet down and walked off the field really ticked. It was kind of funny to see

Edited January 20, 2014 by elrockinMT

[The Ultimate Champion]

So did anyone read this article other than ptatc?

 

I thought it was interesting... Coop isn't a fan of the research according to the article, but his opinion isn't really quantified and even though Coop provides a quote making biomechanical research seem unnecessary, it doesn't necessarily mean he'd be against his organization using it.

 

I wonder if we're among those 20 or so teams that have sent pitchers over there? The Rays use it regularly, we should too. I like specifically the idea of bringing a freshly-signed prospect in, getting his delivery down, and then being able to take him in later to test what has changed and make sure that prospects aren't setting themselves up for failure and are indeed making the progress desired. On the other side of that you have the disclosure aspect - the article poses the idea that some teams may not want to know the answers - because if medical records exist which show your top pitching prospect gaining red flags in his motion right as you decide to trade him, if you do not disclose that during negotiations you're trading partner as well as the other 28 teams in the league are going to be pretty suspicious at the very least.

 

Also, I wonder how this differs from what the Cardinals are doing, or if it's a part of what they are doing to a large degree, where they draft guys based on mechanics even with velocity issues and then look to increase velocity. I would assume adding velocity would be safer if in doing so the mechanics are changed slightly so as to be cleaner. But are they doing that? Or maybe they are just looking to add velocity period, regardless of how it happens/what it entails, get these guys through the system and to MLB no matter what, and if you burn through them, so what, it'll probably happen before they're extended to large and potentially burdensome contracts.