southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 09:59 AM) booze, pot, pills, drag racing, and resisting arrest. BOOM Str8 up Thug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 10:41 AM) Isn't Lindsey Lohan an American citizen? WHO CARES. He isnt getting deported, he isnt getting 6 months, he will go to rehab, have an oprah moment, and we will all move on. You can stop worrying now about who exactly got hurt when a 19 year old kid is street racing his four wheeler while drunk and high down a suburb street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I think you're misinterpreting my post. This really isn't that bad of an offense, I've definitely done similar s***. So have many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 10:53 AM) I think you're misinterpreting my post. This really isn't that bad of an offense, I've definitely done similar s***. So have many. Im not misinterpreting anything. If I got busted doing what he did, I would expect a s***storm coming my way, US citizen or not. Just because you did it doesnt make it "not that bad of an offense". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 was going to make a "duke'll be by soon to defend drunk driving" joke post but thought it was over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 JB will not get the sentence he deserves because drunk driving sentences are way too light in general. First offense should be 30 days in jail and 6 months suspended license. Second offense should be a year in jail and 5 years suspended license. Third offense should be 10 years in jail and permanently suspended license. No exceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 11:14 AM) JB will not get the sentence he deserves because drunk driving sentences are way too light in general. First offense should be 30 days in jail and 6 months suspended license. Second offense should be a year in jail and 5 years suspended license. Third offense should be 10 years in jail and permanently suspended license. No exceptions. He isnt gonna get anything. He is a pop star, and a kid at that. He will get the pop star treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 JB will not get the sentence he deserves because drunk driving sentences are way too light in general. First offense should be 30 days in jail and 6 months suspended license. Second offense should be a year in jail and 5 years suspended license. Third offense should be 10 years in jail and permanently suspended license. No exceptions. Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaa That's harsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Im not misinterpreting anything. If I got busted doing what he did, I would expect a s***storm coming my way, US citizen or not. Just because you did it doesnt make it "not that bad of an offense". When I did it nobody got hurt. When Bieber did it nobody got hurt. Where's the victim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 When I did it nobody got hurt. When Bieber did it nobody got hurt. Where's the victim? When you drive drunk, whether or not there is a victim is more a matter of luck and less a matter of the decision-making by the drunk driver. 80% or whatever of drunk drivers don't happen to have oncoming traffic at the moment they swerve into the other lane but the other 20% do. The problem with the "There is no victim" attitude is that we don't have harsh enough sentences when there aren't victims, thus there is little deterrent to driving drunk and thus we end up with lots of victims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 12:25 PM) When I did it nobody got hurt. When Bieber did it nobody got hurt. Where's the victim? really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 11:25 AM) When I did it nobody got hurt. When Bieber did it nobody got hurt. Where's the victim? Unfortunately due to your reckless behavior you could potentially kill/harm someone so terribly that money cant fix the problem. Thus we cant just "wait for the result and punish accordingly". In many cases I agree though, we should only punish those who cause harm to another. If Bieber was on his own property and he was acting like a stupid idiot, Id have no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 11:25 AM) When I did it nobody got hurt. When Bieber did it nobody got hurt. Where's the victim? Im not even gonna argue this, not even worth the effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 11:36 AM) Unfortunately due to your reckless behavior you could potentially kill/harm someone so terribly that money cant fix the problem. Thus we cant just "wait for the result and punish accordingly". In many cases I agree though, we should only punish those who cause harm to another. If Bieber was on his own property and he was acting like a stupid idiot, Id have no problem. If the property is access-controlled (e.g. fenced off), it's not illegal depending on jurisdiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) His 15 minutes of fame are about up..................he is the modern day version of Leif Garrett in a few years. Edited January 23, 2014 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 10:57 AM) was going to make a "duke'll be by soon to defend drunk driving" joke post but thought it was over the top. NOPE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 11:37 AM) If the property is access-controlled (e.g. fenced off), it's not illegal depending on jurisdiction. Exactly if he wants to be an idiot and take risks where innocent people arent going to get hurt, go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) It's not as dangerous as people make it out to be. This teenage girl that weighs like 110 lbs was legally drunk and high on scripts managed to drag race a Lamborghini without incident. There's maybe 50 people in this country that are actually f***ed up at .10; much less .08. It's all about control and the pockets of criminal defense lawyers who would be on SNAP if those laws went away. Edited January 23, 2014 by DukeNukeEm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 It's not as dangerous as people make it out to be. This teenage girl that weighs like 110 lbs was legally drunk and high on scripts managed to drag race a Lamborghini without incident. There's maybe 50 people in this country that are actually f***ed up at .10; much less .08. It's all about control and the pockets of criminal defense lawyers who would be on SNAP if those laws went away. My cousin is a state cop. I've had him give me breathalyzers after I've had a good night of drinking (but not driving) just to see what I would register. The two times we did it I blew .06 and .09 and in both cases I did not feel even close to being able to drive. Are there people who drink frequently and can build up a tolerance to the point that .08, or even .10 does not severely impair their ability to drive? Yes. But don't even try to argue that everybody, or even most people, are OK to drive at .08. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I have driven home, likely at .12, and I regretted it immediately, even if I was extra cautious, in full control of the vehicle, and had my wits about me. It's f***ing stupid. I wish that went without saying. BUT HE WAS ALSO HIGH ON WEED AND PILLS. Dude was f***ing tripping man. Justifying this by saying "HEY BRO HE DIDN'T HURT ANYONE CHILL HAVE ANOTHER AND SMOKE ONE WITH ME AIGHT" is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 11:44 AM) It's not as dangerous as people make it out to be. This teenage girl that weighs like 110 lbs was legally drunk and high on scripts managed to drag race a Lamborghini without incident. There's maybe 50 people in this country that are actually f***ed up at .10; much less .08. It's all about control and the pockets of criminal defense lawyers who would be on SNAP if those laws went away. I think you’re actually arguing two separate things here. If you are saying that .08 is too low of a limit to be considered drunk, that’s one thing. But I think most people are taking your comments as saying that it’s ok to go get blackout drunk, drive home and as long as you don’t hurt anyone, there should be no problem. Unless that’s actually what you are saying… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 11:44 AM) It's not as dangerous as people make it out to be. This teenage girl that weighs like 110 lbs was legally drunk and high on scripts managed to drag race a Lamborghini without incident. There's maybe 50 people in this country that are actually f***ed up at .10; much less .08. It's all about control and the pockets of criminal defense lawyers who would be on SNAP if those laws went away. Ive managed to operate a vehicle while on hallucinogens, it doesnt mean that it wasnt extremely reckless, stupid. And strangely when I grew up, I recognized that was not okay behavior and now I wont drive when I drink at all. I pay for a cab. Its called being a responsible human. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 10:53 AM) I think you're misinterpreting my post. This really isn't that bad of an offense, I've definitely done similar s***. So have many. We'll be able to find Duke by the #freebeiber sticker on his truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 10:57 AM) was going to make a "duke'll be by soon to defend drunk driving" joke post but thought it was over the top. passing in the right lane>drunk driving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 It's ok as long as they don't hurt anyone... ARE YOU f***ING SERIOUS! THEY ARE TAKING PREEMPTIVE MEASURES BECAUSE IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE DRUNK DRIVING IDIOTS WILL KILL THEMSELVES OR OTHERS! Driving is a privilege, not a right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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