jasonxctf Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 But tik~tok spring training starts here soon. Seems like a few log jams in the roster? What am I missing? 4 starting outfielders- eaton, Garcia, viciedo and de Aza. What's going on here? 3 man rotation at 1b/dh- Dunn, konerko, Abreu 3b- Davidson, Gillespie and keplinger? Is Davidson going to AAA? Is De Aza really getting benched? Seems like a big contract for a 4th outfielder. Who is the starting 3b? Guessing Kepp is the utility IF since he can play all 4 infield positions? Sorry if this has been covered in other threads. Kind of checked out for a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Trades will likely be made involving De Aza/3B. The 1B situation is Abreu almost always, Dunn vs RHP and Konerko vs LHP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentmd2 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Hahn probably hasn't got the value for whichever players he is looking to trade yet. I'm sure he is willing to put Davidson in AAA if need be. But for lack of all our patience I hope he can move Kepp sooner than later. That move at earliest will happen after the first couple months of the season because of injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Dunn is the starting DH and Abreu is the starting 1B. Konerko is the backup. There is still time to trade Viciedo or De Aza, but if the Sox can't get good value for them, there's nothing wrong with a LF platoon. The guy I'm most hoping to see gone is Keppinger. Either way, I think Davidson is the starter if he can beat out Gillaspie, and at AAA if he can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 28, 2014 -> 06:27 AM) Dunn is the starting DH and Abreu is the starting 1B. Konerko is the backup. There is still time to trade Viciedo or De Aza, but if the Sox can't get good value for them, there's nothing wrong with a LF platoon. The guy I'm most hoping to see gone is Keppinger. Either way, I think Davidson is the starter if he can beat out Gillaspie, and at AAA if he can't. If you're talking a Viciedo vs lefty, De Aza vs righty platoon in left field, you're only giving Viciedo around 200 PAs. That would be a horrible idea and basically admitting that he is not going to amount to anything. Not to mention the fact that Viciedo hit righties better last year. Edited January 28, 2014 by lasttriptotulsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Hahn is not done. Book it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jan 28, 2014 -> 06:41 AM) Hahn is not done. Book it. Agreed. I think come opening day, De Aza, Keppinger and Gillaspie will no longer be with the team. I would imagine that Hahn would try to use them to acquire a catcher even though the only one with any value is De Aza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jan 28, 2014 -> 06:41 AM) Hahn is not done. Book it. I don't know, Knuckles. He hasn't made a move in a long time. I'm sure he is weighing his options for De Aza. In all honesty, I'm sure zero teams want Flowers or Keppinger at this point. I hate to put Davidson in Charlotte for the first 2-3 months of the season, but Keppinger needs to increase his value for us to rid of that contract. Remember, he still has 3 years left on it. The Sox need a catcher more than anything else at this point, and Hahn knows this. I really hope this move gets done before ST, but I'm not counting on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 pretty certain only two years left on Keppinger. Damn certain only one year left on Dunn. Counting the minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It would have been much easier to trade Keppinger before re-signing Konerko and acquiring Davidson. Now every team knows Hahn is desperate to move him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian310 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I don't see any of the guys we have left to trade equaling a young catcher. For the guys we have to offer, I think you are talking fringey kind of bullpen arms, which on this team could be diamond in the roughs considering Coop's history with getting good use out of them. Thornton was like 27 when we got him and he was in horrible shape until Coop worked his magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 28, 2014 -> 07:39 AM) It would have been much easier to trade Keppinger before re-signing Konerko and acquiring Davidson. Now every team knows Hahn is desperate to move him. I think if any team really wants Keppinger, the offers won't change. I think most GMs think of their roster before trying to screw another GM. It wasn't like Jeff Keppinger was going to bring back anything of use anyway. Edited January 28, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Jan 27, 2014 -> 10:03 PM) But tik~tok spring training starts here soon. Seems like a few log jams in the roster? What am I missing? 4 starting outfielders- eaton, Garcia, viciedo and de Aza. What's going on here? 3 man rotation at 1b/dh- Dunn, konerko, Abreu 3b- Davidson, Gillespie and keplinger? Is Davidson going to AAA? Is De Aza really getting benched? Seems like a big contract for a 4th outfielder. Who is the starting 3b? Guessing Kepp is the utility IF since he can play all 4 infield positions? Sorry if this has been covered in other threads. Kind of checked out for a bit. Hi, Confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 28, 2014 -> 05:38 AM) If you're talking a Viciedo vs lefty, De Aza vs righty platoon in left field, you're only giving Viciedo around 200 PAs. That would be a horrible idea and basically admitting that he is not going to amount to anything. Not to mention the fact that Viciedo hit righties better last year. Yeah, there won't be a LF platoon, but ADA could backup all the OF positions and still get a fair amount of AB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 28, 2014 -> 07:50 AM) I think if any team really wants Keppinger, the offers won't change. I think most GMs think of their roster before trying to screw another GM. It wasn't like Jeff Keppinger was going to bring back anything of use anyway. After thinking of their own roster, I would hope a GM says, "Hey, that roster is a clusterf***, maybe I can offer them less for that guy, or I will just wait til they DFA him." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 28, 2014 -> 08:05 AM) After thinking of their own roster, I would hope a GM says, "Hey, that roster is a clusterf***, maybe I can offer them less for that guy, or I will just wait til they DFA him." Seriously, what would you expect someone to offer for Keppinger now and how do you think it would be different if they didn't have Davidson? The Sox aren't going to release him. Guys who can't run or field and have .600 OPSs and are owed $8 million generally bring you back some guy in A ball who if everything went right would be a poor man's Dylan Axelrod, even if you eat most of the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jan 28, 2014 -> 09:05 AM) Yeah, there won't be a LF platoon, but ADA could backup all the OF positions and still get a fair amount of AB's. (I still think this is a terrible idea) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 28, 2014 -> 07:52 AM) Hi, Confused. Ohhhh we gots a comedian over here yous guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 28, 2014 -> 08:16 AM) Seriously, what would you expect someone to offer for Keppinger now and how do you think it would be different if they didn't have Davidson? The Sox aren't going to release him. Guys who can't run or field and have .600 OPSs and are owed $8 million generally bring you back some guy in A ball who if everything went right would be a poor man's Dylan Axelrod, even if you eat most of the contract. So then he's not getting traded? By that logic, trade and DFA are essentialy the exact same thing. Edited January 28, 2014 by LittleHurt05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 28, 2014 -> 08:26 AM) So then he's not getting traded? By that logic, trade and DFA are essentialy the exact same thing. He might be a throw in addition to a bigger deal, but Keppinger doesn't have value. If the Sox didn't have him and needed a 3rd baseman or 2nd baseman and his contract and 2013 were the same for another team, if Hahn gave up anything of value or took on the contract, we all would be saying wtf. Edited January 28, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 28, 2014 -> 07:50 AM) I think if any team really wants Keppinger, the offers won't change. I think most GMs think of their roster before trying to screw another GM. It wasn't like Jeff Keppinger was going to bring back anything of use anyway. This. Keppinger is the most likely guy to get moved to a team in Spring Training that just suffered a long-term injury to an infielder. He's a stopgap no matter how you look at it, and the absolute best we can expect is some salary relief and MAYBE a live arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Pittsburgh is kind of desperate for a 1B. Wonder what Dunn could bring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jan 28, 2014 -> 11:48 AM) Pittsburgh is kind of desperate for a 1B. Wonder what Dunn could bring? Baltimore is supposedly looking for a DH as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 28, 2014 -> 07:17 AM) (I still think this is a terrible idea) Well, I expect him to be traded, but it may not be before the start of the season. Actually expect it to be midseason, now. He's insurance for Eaton, and he'll have a lot of late game action in LF as D replacement for Tank, on days he doesn't start. Edited January 28, 2014 by Stan Bahnsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I don't think Dunn moves. He wouldn't be worth much and Hahn has mentioned he is worried about left handed pop in our lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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