dasox24 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 22, 2014 -> 11:46 PM) That picture off center with a player right on the thirty five does not convince me, sorry. Huh? The closest player's front foot is a full yard behind the 35. You can't lean enough without falling over for any part of your body to be that far in front of your front foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 From the few games I watched today it looked like the refs were on the take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 12:55 AM) From the few games I watched today it looked like the refs were on the take. its that time of year when conferences are trying to get teams bowl eligible. so if Illinois goes 5-7, do you guys think Beckman is an automatic firing? Just trying to find some teams that may be willing to "steal" Golden from Miami. Since he wont get fired after this season, I've got to hope someone sways him away. He is f***ing terrible. Let another program get Haith'd. Edited November 23, 2014 by zenryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 QUOTE (zenryan @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 10:31 AM) its that time of year when conferences are trying to get teams bowl eligible. so if Illinois goes 5-7, do you guys think Beckman is an automatic firing? Just trying to find some teams that may be willing to "steal" Golden from Miami. Since he wont get fired after this season, I've got to hope someone sways him away. He is f***ing terrible. Let another program get Haith'd. Why would he leave Miami to go to Illinois if he isn't forced out though? The Illinois program is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Boogua @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 11:43 AM) Why would he leave Miami to go to Illinois if he isn't forced out though? The Illinois program is awful. Might make more money. Job security would be better. He is very loyal to his DC and he might prefer to go elsewhere with him instead of firing him. Also to win at Miami, he has to clean up south Florida and right now that isnt happening because of a lot of BS by south Florida HS coaches. f***ing piranhas down there who hold grudges or wanting some sort of kick back. Edited November 23, 2014 by zenryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 QUOTE (zenryan @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 10:31 AM) Let another program get Haith'd. Ha, very nice reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 QUOTE (zenryan @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 11:35 AM) Might make more money. Job security would be better. He is very loyal to his DC and he might prefer to go elsewhere with him instead of firing him. Also to win at Miami, he has to clean up south Florida and right now that isnt happening because of a lot of BS by south Florida HS coaches. f***ing piranhas down there who hold grudges or wanting some sort of kick back. If he goes somewhere else, it won't be UI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 From the few games I watched today it looked like the refs were on the take. No ref problems at ND Saturday. Just a coach who can't get his head out of his ass. Funny that he thinks that consistently failing to score touchdowns from within the 10 is a player execution problem and not a playcalling problem, though. Oh, and go recruit a good kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 The horseshoe that was up ND's ass in 2012 is now firmly planted up Florida State's. Both teams are strikingly similar. I really hope FSU can get past Florida but they are going to get lit up by Oregon or Alabama in the playoff. I honestly don't think FSU is one of the top 10 teams in the country right now, let along top 4. I have a +600 futures bet on FSU winning it all from over the summer but I am absolutely hedging that if they make it to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 06:59 AM) No ref problems at ND Saturday. Just a coach who can't get his head out of his ass. Funny that he thinks that consistently failing to score touchdowns from within the 10 is a player execution problem and not a playcalling problem, though. Oh, and go recruit a good kicker. Kelly really seems to enjoy throwing his players under the bus, something you don't really see much of at the college level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Kelly really seems to enjoy throwing his players under the bus, something you don't really see much of at the college level. I will say that while the team has Top 5 talent, they are very inexperienced and it has shown from time to time. Still, there have been an awful lot of horrible coaching decisions on both offense and defense the past 3 games. Very sad to see since the FSU game was one of the best-coached games I've ever seen from Kelly's era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 22, 2014 -> 12:15 PM) Come on Penn St., put this one away. I don't want there to be any possibility of Beckman saving his job. QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 22, 2014 -> 02:11 PM) And f***. There's a legitimate chance Beckman is back next year now. Seriously? This outlook pisses me off, that win was earned by our seniors they deserved it. Forget about Beckman for one day and enjoy an Illini win, he isn't coming back anyways so relax and let the seniors/team have their moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 11:04 AM) Seriously? This outlook pisses me off, that win was earned by our seniors they deserved it. Forget about Beckman for one day and enjoy an Illini win, he isn't coming back anyways so relax and let the seniors/team have their moment. I have to agree. Enjoy your damn team. We all thought they'd win 5 or 6 games this year and here they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I know this is going to sound bizarre coming from me, but I take real issue with FSU not being #1 in the playoff rankings. Yes, they needed quite a bit of luck (and extra help from the refs) to win all their games, but their official record is 11-0 and they play in a major conference. Yes, I know that their conference is weak, but their schedule strength is still #49 according to Sagarin and I think your schedule strength needs to be much closer to Marshall territory (#136) before you can start putting teams with losses ahead of them. Do I think two, and possibly more teams are actually better than FSU? Yes, but if being undefeated doesn't count for something, then it's a dumb system. I just think we are setting a dangerous precedent where some really good undefeated team down the line could get left out of the playoffs entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 11:04 AM) Seriously? This outlook pisses me off, that win was earned by our seniors they deserved it. Forget about Beckman for one day and enjoy an Illini win, he isn't coming back anyways so relax and let the seniors/team have their moment. I don't think that is true at all. I think there is a chance that he is brought back even if he loses to NW and if he beats NW and is going to a bowl game I would be really surprised if he isn't brought back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 05:05 PM) I don't think that is true at all. I think there is a chance that he is brought back even if he loses to NW and if he beats NW and is going to a bowl game I would be really surprised if he isn't brought back. I personally would be shocked if Beckman is kept by Thomas, he would have to win out and the chances of that are still low. I think Thomas wants a new coach and hasn't seen Beckman as the guy for awhile. That said, this all relies on two things: 1. Do we win Saturday/and in a bowl (moreso Saturday)? 2. Are any coaches worth pursuing even interested in this job? But in the meantime I'm going to enjoy this team finally doing something in the Big Ten and really, really want to beat NU and Fitzy to steal a bowl game from them as we go bowling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 05:17 PM) I personally would be shocked if Beckman is kept by Thomas, he would have to win out and the chances of that are still low. I think Thomas wants a new coach and hasn't seen Beckman as the guy for awhile. That said, this all relies on two things: 1. Do we win Saturday/and in a bowl (moreso Saturday)? 2. Are any coaches worth pursuing even interested in this job? But in the meantime I'm going to enjoy this team finally doing something in the Big Ten and really, really want to beat NU and Fitzy to steal a bowl game from them as we go bowling. I'd fire Beckman even if he got 6 wins, but as long as he plays NU close his odds of sticking around are probably better than 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 QUOTE (gatnom @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 05:24 PM) I'd fire Beckman even if he got 6 wins, but as long as he plays NU close his odds of sticking around are probably better than 50%. Regardless of Beckman staying/going, us making a bowl this year would be huge for the program and so I'll be rooting on this team no matter what. I honestly don't think Beckman will be kept, I think Thomas has a plan on moving on from him but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 05:32 PM) Regardless of Beckman staying/going, us making a bowl this year would be huge for the program and so I'll be rooting on this team no matter what. I honestly don't think Beckman will be kept, I think Thomas has a plan on moving on from him but we'll see. There's a 0.000001% chance he's fired if he makes it to a bowl, which is probably worse for the program in the long run, but I can't actively root for them to lose. So, a win win situation, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 06:05 PM) I don't think that is true at all. I think there is a chance that he is brought back even if he loses to NW and if he beats NW and is going to a bowl game I would be really surprised if he isn't brought back. From an outsider's perspective, I can't imagine Beckman keeping his job. Besides the amount of losses in his tenure and the fact that he seems to get out-coached a lot, I think the lack of attendance is the most damning thing for him. Nobody is going to the games. You cannot have that if you want your program to be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I would be willing to bet that if Illinois scored a touchdown to go up 11 on NW midway through the 4th quarter, Beckman would NOT be stupid enough to go for two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Beckman is bad. I don't think I've ever hated an Illini coach more. But if they somehow beat NW and make a bowl, than his team has achieved a goal and a reasonable measure of success and, maybe more importantly, over come adversity by finishing strong to do it. If that happens (and I don't think it will), he deserves to stay (shudder). Edited November 25, 2014 by PlaySumFnJurny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Yikes. Hope he's ok. ANy word on him, Rock? http://deadspin.com/ohio-state-football-pl...esda-1664196677 If depressed, I'm sure he'll feel loads better around 2pm on Sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Western Kentucky and Marshall kicking off the second half after combining for 91 points in the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 01:19 PM) Western Kentucky and Marshall kicking off the second half after combining for 91 points in the first half. And of course they haven't scored yet, 13 minutes into the 3rd. It's funny how that works sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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