Rowand44 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Good god Amari Cooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 10:41 PM) Good god Amari Cooper. How are you not double teaming him at this point? Alabama only throws his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 09:42 PM) How are you not double teaming him at this point? Alabama only throws his way. Seriously. One on one coverage with no safety help over the top? Ya touchdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Tim Beckman seems like an awful coach and I have little faith in the future, but 6-6 and a bowl bid is a success for Illinois football, so let him stay for another year. (As they should have done with Zook ) Detroit or Dallas, here we come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 09:41 PM) Good god Amari Cooper. Imagine the numbers Julio Jones & Cooper could have put up in passing offenses with real quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 There's not enough talk in this thread about how awful the SEC East is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 QUOTE (danman31 @ Nov 30, 2014 -> 12:10 AM) There's not enough talk in this thread about how awful the SEC East is. It's the NFC South of college football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Bo Pelini out at Nebraska. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 30, 2014 -> 10:02 AM) Bo Pelini out at Nebraska. Wow. Okay. Now I wish IIllinois lost yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 So Louisville has a chance to go to the Orange Bowl, but only if FSU beats Georgia Tech. I've had at least two friends who are Louisville fans tell me that they don't like having to root for a team with somebody as slimy as Winston. Yes, these are fans of Louisville, whose coach is Bobby Petrino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I know Pellini has anger issues that Nub fans didn't like, but frankly I think the type of success they've had under Bo is about what they will get even best case with a new coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 30, 2014 -> 05:18 PM) So Louisville has a chance to go to the Orange Bowl, but only if FSU beats Georgia Tech. I've had at least two friends who are Louisville fans tell me that they don't like having to root for a team with somebody as slimy as Winston. Yes, these are fans of Louisville, whose coach is Bobby Petrino. GT is in the Orange Bowl even if they lose to FSU, as they'll still be the highest ranked ACC team besides FSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 GT is in the Orange Bowl even if they lose to FSU, as they'll still be the highest ranked ACC team besides FSU GT = 16, Lou = 22, it's not impossible for GT to fall behind Lou with a loss, especially if it ends up not being close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 30, 2014 -> 05:45 PM) GT = 16, Lou = 22, it's not impossible for GT to fall behind Lou with a loss, especially if it ends up not being close. Those rankings are before the GT win at #9 UGA. I haven't read one projection today that hasn't said GT to Orange Bowl is a virtual lock. If GT loses to FSU, they'll have the same record as Louisville with much better victories (at UGA, Clemson), higher SOS and Louisville has no top 25 wins. It's hard to see any scenario in which Louisville ends up higher ranked than GT. Also, sure seems like Clemson would be picked over Louisville Edited November 30, 2014 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 @sryantribune: A statement from Mike Thomas expected today on status of coach Beckman. Signs indicate he's staying. My condolences, Illini fans #WINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Those rankings are before the GT win at #9 UGA. I haven't read one projection today that hasn't said GT to Orange Bowl is a virtual lock. If GT loses to FSU, they'll have the same record as Louisville with much better victories (at UGA, Clemson), higher SOS and Louisville has no top 25 wins. It's hard to see any scenario in which Louisville ends up higher ranked than GT. Also, sure seems like Clemson would be picked over Louisville There is no pick involved, Orange Bowl is obligated to take the highest ranked team. I agree that it's a longshot, but there is at least some chance it happens. In any case, the point was about Louisville fans not wanting to root for FSU because of Winston's character issues. I was so stunned when people said that I couldn't even respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 30, 2014 -> 10:06 AM) Okay. Now I wish IIllinois lost yesterday Yeah they need to hire Pelini right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 30, 2014 -> 05:52 PM) There is no pick involved, Orange Bowl is obligated to take the highest ranked team. I agree that it's a longshot, but there is at least some chance it happens. In any case, the point was about Louisville fans not wanting to root for FSU because of Winston's character issues. I was so stunned when people said that I couldn't even respond. I know there is no pick, as it's all based on ranking. As of today, Clemson is one spot ahead of Louisville. I can't see the committee putting Lville in front of Clemson after this coming week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Fan In Husker Land Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 As a lifelong Husker fan I agree with the decision to fire Pelini. Nebraska may have won 9 games every year under him but they we were beating nobody good. Our best win this year was against 7-5 Iowa. Bo Pelini at Nebraska is 5-18 against teams that finished in the Top 25. 0-10 against teams that finished in the Top 10. In 7 years he had 0 conference championships, 0 BCS games. The last 2 years NU finished 5th in the Big Ten and 3rd in their division. The last 2 years NU played 4 teams that finished in the Top 25 and lost them all. Not to mention the blowout losses to teams with lesser talent (408 yards to Melvin Gordon really!). Nebraska is a blue blood program and can do better. To those who say who can they get better? I don't know until we try, all I know is Pelini wasn't going to lead NU to anything worth a damn. Oklahoma sucked after Switzer and fired 2 coaches before they got Stoops. Bama had multiple coaches between Gene Stallings and Saban. In college football it is all about your head coach, if Nebraska gets a good one we will be back to being good quickly. The Big Ten West isn't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (danman31 @ Nov 30, 2014 -> 01:10 AM) There's not enough talk in this thread about how awful the SEC East is. Ha, it really is. That being said, it won't be for long. Florida is a sleeping giant. Hire a good coach and they will win 10 games a year at minimum. If Georgia can find a QB, they'll be a ton better. Tennessee will be back. We're recruiting way too well and the whole 2-deep is basically underclassmen right now. And of course Missouri is always incredibly solid under Pinkel. He develops players so well, especially on that D-line. Kentucky will never be great, but Stoops seems to have them heading in the right direction. They're recruiting well and could get to 7-8 win seasons like they were at the end of the Rich Brooks era. Only SC and Vandy are trending down right now. Edited November 30, 2014 by dasox24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 QUOTE (Sox Fan In Husker Land @ Nov 30, 2014 -> 12:42 PM) As a lifelong Husker fan I agree with the decision to fire Pelini. Nebraska may have won 9 games every year under him but they we were beating nobody good. Our best win this year was against 7-5 Iowa. Bo Pelini at Nebraska is 5-18 against teams that finished in the Top 25. 0-10 against teams that finished in the Top 10. In 7 years he had 0 conference championships, 0 BCS games. The last 2 years NU finished 5th in the Big Ten and 3rd in their division. The last 2 years NU played 4 teams that finished in the Top 25 and lost them all. Not to mention the blowout losses to teams with lesser talent (408 yards to Melvin Gordon really!). Nebraska is a blue blood program and can do better. To those who say who can they get better? I don't know until we try, all I know is Pelini wasn't going to lead NU to anything worth a damn. Oklahoma sucked after Switzer and fired 2 coaches before they got Stoops. Bama had multiple coaches between Gene Stallings and Saban. In college football it is all about your head coach, if Nebraska gets a good one we will be back to being good quickly. The Big Ten West isn't very good. I agree with the first half of the post, but you start losing me by saying Wisconsin has less talent. The problem for Nebraska is they don't have that much talent. That's a big reason why they are losing to good teams. Nebraska was a blue blood program, but in modern college football where every team is on TV and every program gets plenty of exposure, recruiting to Lincoln isn't as easy as it used to be. The bottom line is recruiting at a high level without a dense local area to pull from is tough. Oklahoma is similar to Nebraska except the proximity to Texas recruiting is a huge difference. Being in the Big Ten probably hurts Nebraska's recruiting as well. I think you can argue for Pelini being fired, and you brought up some of those points. I just don't buy the elite program deserves better part. Pelini's overall record should be perfectly acceptable. I will say that the lack of apparent upside is the problem. If he had some 7 or 8 win seasons mixed in with some 10 or 11 win seasons fans wouldn't be so upset. The 3+ losses every year and lack of a great, memorable season is why he is fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 30, 2014 -> 11:46 AM) @sryantribune: A statement from Mike Thomas expected today on status of coach Beckman. Signs indicate he's staying. My condolences, Illini fans #WINT I'm going to cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Fan In Husker Land Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 QUOTE (danman31 @ Nov 30, 2014 -> 01:05 PM) I agree with the first half of the post, but you start losing me by saying Wisconsin has less talent. The problem for Nebraska is they don't have that much talent. That's a big reason why they are losing to good teams. Nebraska was a blue blood program, but in modern college football where every team is on TV and every program gets plenty of exposure, recruiting to Lincoln isn't as easy as it used to be. The bottom line is recruiting at a high level without a dense local area to pull from is tough. Oklahoma is similar to Nebraska except the proximity to Texas recruiting is a huge difference. Being in the Big Ten probably hurts Nebraska's recruiting as well. I think you can argue for Pelini being fired, and you brought up some of those points. I just don't buy the elite program deserves better part. Pelini's overall record should be perfectly acceptable. I will say that the lack of apparent upside is the problem. If he had some 7 or 8 win seasons mixed in with some 10 or 11 win seasons fans wouldn't be so upset. The 3+ losses every year and lack of a great, memorable season is why he is fired. According to every recruiting site Nebraska has signed more talent than Wisconsin since 2009, so yes Nebraska has more talent than Wisconisn. Rivals has NU's worst class in the last 5 years as still better than Wisconsin's best class. Is Wisconsin coached better, yes. Has Wisconsin developed talent better than Nebraska, yes. Wisconsin ran 4 basic plays against NU. We stayed in 2 high safeties all day. No adjustments. I also was not calling Melvin Gordon not talented, dude is legit awesome. We also lost to Minnesota 2 years in a row. Minnesota does not have better talent than Nebraska. I didn't say Nebraska deserved better, I said they can do better. Whether they deserve better or not is someone's opinion. From 1962-2001 Nebraska was 398-78-5 with 5 National Championships. Since then 110-59 with nary a Confernce title. Frank Solich was fired and has been at Ohio since. Bill Callahan was fired and is the Dallas Cowboys OC. We will see where Pelini ends up. Get the right coach and it can be done. Recruiting at a high level to Nebraska can be done, Bill Callahan proved that. He just wasn't a good head coach. His 2008 class was shaping up to be another top 10 class at NU. 3 OL decommited after he was fired that are in the NFL now Riley Reiff, Dan Hoch, and Trevor Robinson . Same with Jonas Gray, and Blaine Gabbert both in NFL both decommited. Recruiting to Nebraska at a high level can be done. Bo Pelini and Frank Solich were just not good recruiters. I agree with you as to that is why he was fired, well at least part of it. Some of Pelini's off the field stuff and on field conduct I'm sure were also factored into the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 30, 2014 -> 11:46 AM) @sryantribune: A statement from Mike Thomas expected today on status of coach Beckman. Signs indicate he's staying. My condolences, Illini fans #WINT LOL, as he should for at least one more year. He won't be able to back his way into 6 wins in 2015 though. NU comes to Champaign, but their next four "easiest" conference games are all on the road, as is the one BCS non-conference opponent. There will need to be improvement to go bowling next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 30, 2014 -> 01:57 PM) LOL, as he should for at least one more year. He won't be able to back his way into 6 wins in 2015 though. NU comes to Champaign, but their next four "easiest" conference games are all on the road, as is the one BCS non-conference opponent. There will need to be improvement to go bowling next year. It would take some balls but the best thing for this program would still be to fire Beckman and move on. Everyone knows he's still a dead man walking. Right now we're just delaying the inevitable. I made this same post last season but it still applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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