Kyyle23 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 09:32 AM) A big hint something was coming was with the Cutler contract conversion that was just done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 09:28 AM) I'm interested to hear what Allen says in his press conference. It is very curious to me that he chose the Bears over a chance with the Seahawks. Obviously I don't know what the hangup is with the seahawks(probably amount of money) but you would think he would take less to play on a instant SB contender I bet it was a combination of money, playing time and style of play. In Seattle he would have been in a rotation. I think in Chicago he's going to get 95% of the snaps. And those snaps are going to, hopefully, be about getting after the quarterback, not stopping the run game because of Chicago's superior offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) Now let's draft and Dix or Pryor and call it an overhaul. Edited March 26, 2014 by PlaySumFnJurny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 09:42 AM) Now let's draft and Dix or Pryor and call it an overhaul. I still want Donald if he's there, but wouldn't hate a safety if he was gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Yeah I still wouldn't hate a DT/DE in first round. Regardless of 2014, we need to develop cheap talent at that position. We can't keep buying Oline/Dline, though it's remarkable in 2 successive years we essentially have brand new both. Let's hope this is as successful as the oline rebuild was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 While I do think Allen's regressing, he's an upgrade over Peppers at half the price (if we would have kept Peppers). I'm assuming only the first two years of the contract are guaranteed ($15.5 million over 2)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 02:59 PM) While I do think Allen's regressing, he's an upgrade over Peppers at half the price (if we would have kept Peppers). I'm assuming only the first two years of the contract are guaranteed ($15.5 million over 2)? He's obviously getting older, but I think 2 years in we'll be solid. Last year vike's O was so bad he was on the field a lot, and I'm guessing saw more run plays. Despite all that he got 11.5 sacks last year. I hope we get double digit sacks from him but 8.5 to 9.5 plus lots of pressure is fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 10:03 AM) He's obviously getting older, but I think 2 years in we'll be solid. Last year vike's O was so bad he was on the field a lot, and I'm guessing saw more run plays. Despite all that he got 11.5 sacks last year. I hope we get double digit sacks from him but 8.5 to 9.5 plus lots of pressure is fine with me. He's probably going to play 70% of the snaps. The Bears aren't just going to let Willie Young sit for 90% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 03:05 PM) He's probably going to play 70% of the snaps. The Bears aren't just going to let Willie Young sit for 90% of the time. Lamarr Houston can play DT too. There are lots of ways to rotate in Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 10:06 AM) Lamarr Houston can play DT too. There are lots of ways to rotate in Young. I think he'll be there when they use some 3-4 in their new "hybrid 4-3" so its should be interesting seeing maybe allen,houston,and young all rushing the QB simultaneously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 10:06 AM) Lamarr Houston can play DT too. There are lots of ways to rotate in Young. In passing situations, Houston will definitely move inside and Young can play outside. In the modern NFL, you can't have enough pass rushers. And the Bears are still really only three-deep with proven DE talent, so there is definitely enough snaps to go around. Plus, Allen will probably be more effective with less snaps so he can stay fresh. I really think the Bears should draft some combination of S, DT and CB in the first three rounds of the Draft. In my perfect world: R.1 = Clinton-Dix Really hard to get elite safeties unless you draft high. R. 2 = Hageman or Tuitt (hopefully one falls) DT is very deep, so a good one will drop. R. 3 = Jean-Baptiste Big CB in the mold of Sherman. R. 4 = Gaines CB from Mizzou, he is a really good player, just look at how he held down Mike Evans. R. 5 = RB Thomas Jack of all trades from Oregon, who could be used in various roles. R. 6 = Lyerla Oregon TE, Major red flags and off-the-field issues, but maybe Long takes him under his wing since both share a similar story. Regardless we have no depth at TE and he can be an elite player if he ever cleans up. R. 6 = BPA Edited March 26, 2014 by maggsmaggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 04:20 PM) In passing situations, Houston will definitely move inside and Young can play outside. In the modern NFL, you can't have enough pass rushers. And the Bears are still really only three-deep with proven DE talent, so there is definitely enough snaps to go around. Plus, Allen will probably be more effective with less snaps so he can stay fresh. Izzy has proven competent in specialist roles. I don't have a problem with him taking up snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 You guys forget, the Bears have signed 6 DEs so far this offseason. Jared Allen will definitely have time to be fresh for late in the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 @KapandHaugh: .@RealJerryAngelo: Jared Allen a good signing. He still has good football left. He'll be a solid fit w/ Houston & Young in that rotation. Aaaaaugh! Kiss of death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxsoxsoxsox Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 "I'd like to take a moment to thank my former teammates, coaches and the staff at the Minnesota Vikings for all of their inspiring work and dedication. Perhaps more importantly I would like to thank the fans and the Minnesota community. I can only hope that I have left with you all, with even a fraction of the positive support and impact you have had on my life, my foundation and my family. I am very excited about this next chapter in my career with the Chicago Bears and can't wait to see what the future holds for us. God bless. -JA" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Stoked. I still want Donald. In passing situations Allen-Houston-Donald-Young would just be sexy as funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Woah. Emery snatching someone from Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I think Seattle has to be very conscious of their upcoming salary commitments to young players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 11:32 AM) Woah. Emery snatching someone from Seattle. I wonder what Brian Urlacher thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 11:57 AM) I wonder what Brian Urlacher thinks. "FOOD. GIRLS. BEARS MAKE ANGRY. FOOD. COMCAST." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Is this the same Jared Allen that Bears fans were getting their panties in a bunch over a few years ago for getting to play while appealing a PED suspension and also for railroading Lance Louis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 12:17 PM) Is this the same Jared Allen that Bears fans were getting their panties in a bunch over a few years ago for getting to play while appealing a PED suspension and also for railroading Lance Louis? I don't remember the PED part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 12:56 PM) I think Seattle has to be very conscious of their upcoming salary commitments to young players I get that is a worthy consideration, but really their goal ought to be to win the super bowl every year right now and worry about the cap ramifications in 2 years when it becomes a huge problem and forces their teams dismantling. That's pretty much going to happen to some degree. Win the trophy again while you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 26, 2014 -> 11:18 AM) I don't remember the PED part Could be wrong, I vaguely remember something like this. *Edit* It was Kevin & Pat Williams. Not sure why Allen came to mind. Edited March 26, 2014 by Swingandalongonetoleft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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