Chisoxfn Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 10:30 AM) I think if you looked at just those two instances and laid them next to each other, yea it could be annoying when presented every fact. When you look at the league wide varying punishments for violence and drug use, you see a very strange inconsistency that is driving everyone crazy. I think they have consistently been lenient on first time offenders. It has been the repeat offenders they have been harsher with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 12:30 PM) I think if you looked at just those two instances and laid them next to each other, yea it could be annoying when presented every fact. When you look at the league wide varying punishments for violence and drug use, you see a very strange inconsistency that is driving everyone crazy. I guess my main complaint here is that the comparisons im seeing make it look like Josh Gordon smoked weed ONCE and was suspended all year. That's pretty much what I meant by this. I understand that domestic violence is worse than smoking weed. That's what was really irritating me about what im seeing some fools post, and most of them are the pro weed crowd so its not surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (TRU @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 01:37 PM) I guess my main complaint here is that the comparisons im seeing make it look like Josh Gordon smoked weed ONCE and was suspended all year. That's pretty much what I meant by this. I understand that domestic violence is worse than smoking weed. That's what was really irritating me about what im seeing some fools post, and most of them are the pro weed crowd so its not surprising. I encourage and support you getting irritated with people who haven't taken the time to learn the cases on those grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 24, 2014 -> 01:51 PM) I doubt anyone would know about it if you were just Kyle and not a professional athlete. No, but if you wind up on the front page or on the news with video of you dragging your beat until put to sleep wife across a hall by her hair, your employment status has a good chance of changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 12:35 PM) I think they have consistently been lenient on first time offenders. It has been the repeat offenders they have been harsher with. Did Plaxico have multiple run ins with the law when he got 4 games for shooting himself(after 2 years in prison)? Honest question, I dont recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 12:46 PM) Did Plaxico have multiple run ins with the law when he got 4 games for shooting himself(after 2 years in prison)? Honest question, I dont recall IIRC, the law he broke was a pretty serious law in New York. I dont remember hearing about him having any previous issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 No prior history shouldn't come into play with some offenses. Wife beating is one. I guess it works that way in multiple sports. Chuck Knoblauch had to beat up 2 wives before the Twins pulled the plug on his Twins HOF ceremony. Beating one was OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Stephen A Smith comments on how women need to do more to avoid provoking men into violence. His words. (used word "provocation" repeatedly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 01:46 PM) Did Plaxico have multiple run ins with the law when he got 4 games for shooting himself(after 2 years in prison)? Honest question, I dont recall According to Wikipedia in the 4 months before the gunshot there were 2 domestic disturbance calls to his residence resulting in temporary restraining orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 12:50 PM) Stephen A Smith comments on how women need to do more to avoid provoking men into violence. His words. (used word "provocation" repeatedly). It amazes me that a college educated person would go on television and actually say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 12:50 PM) No prior history shouldn't come into play with some offenses. Wife beating is one. I guess it works that way in multiple sports. Chuck Knoblauch had to beat up 2 wives before the Twins pulled the plug on his Twins HOF ceremony. Beating one was OK. Now, I do think there is a difference between getting drunk and then both getting into a fight and you punching her and knocking her compared to just beating (as in repeatedly) the crap out of a woman for no reason more than you had a bad day or don't care for what was for dinner that night. I don't remember the entire story, but im pretty sure they were both fighting. Of course doesn't make it right either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (TRU @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 12:50 PM) IIRC, the law he broke was a pretty serious law in New York. I dont remember hearing about him having any previous issues. Some concealed weapon zero tolerance thing. Spending time in jail because you shot yourself is pretty hysterical. Edited July 25, 2014 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 12:18 PM) McCown was a long term player in the league. And yes, I had similar feelings but despite my feelings of Josh, at least he had a history of playing in the league, etc, and being a legit back-up. My fears were that he was too old, etc. Palmer has never been a legit back-up and now all of a sudden he is. Totally laughable and this "QB" whisperer stuff is overrated. You can't just take total hasbeens and make them good. McCown was smart and efficient and at one time a guy some people thought had some legit upside, early in his career. Fair enough...Palmer seems like a pretty smart fellow himself, and apparently knows something about the QB position. I remember watching a video of him working out and "teaching" Blake Bortles around draft time and was a little surprised by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 On a sidenote, it sounds like it was Claussen, not Palmer who threw the picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 01:05 PM) On a sidenote, it sounds like it was Claussen, not Palmer who threw the picks. Every QB threw a pick today in camp lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 01:10 PM) Every QB threw a pick today in camp lol Indeed. But FWIW, it was reported that the Cutler pick was juggled by Morgan and should have been caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (TRU @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 12:50 PM) IIRC, the law he broke was a pretty serious law in New York. I dont remember hearing about him having any previous issues. It was, which is why he received a 2 year mandatory jail sentence. But then 4 games on top of the jail sentence? Just weird. And then you have guys who put themselves into rehab to avoid game suspensions like Alden Smith, while he is waiting to go on trial for people getting shot at his house party. All in all, there is very uneven punishment in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 12:50 PM) Stephen A Smith comments on how women need to do more to avoid provoking men into violence. His words. (used word "provocation" repeatedly). He is provoking me to beat some sense into him with statements like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 01:23 PM) He is provoking me to beat some sense into him with statements like that. you should go to deadspin and read his twitter long form "apology". He definitely made it all better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 12:50 PM) Stephen A Smith comments on how women need to do more to avoid provoking men into violence. His words. (used word "provocation" repeatedly). Is there anyone that ESPN puts on the air that isn't a f***ing moron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 01:23 PM) He is provoking me to beat some sense into him with statements like that. Should I drive you to the airport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 02:07 PM) Should I drive you to the airport? pack his bags for him too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Really wanna see a Beadle/Smith debate. It'd be incredible. Edited July 25, 2014 by scs787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 02:12 PM) pack his bags for him too Just so long as I don't traded for a bag of balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 02:19 PM) Really wanna see a Beadle/Smith debate. It'd be incredible. I like Beadle cause she seems like a fun person and likes wrestling and all that stuff but I don't think she's the most intelligent person in the world. I don't think she'd be the best debater out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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