2014-2015 NFL Football thread

[TheTruth05]

People keep arguing this point as if it's a better throwing mechanic, decision making, etc., when in reality he's playing marginally better due to a massive improvement in the talent around him. He's still Cutler. He still makes dumb decisions with the ball at the absolute worst times.

 

This

[iamshack]

Another thing that isn't being talked about....On that drive where Gould missed a FG, had MartyB done his job and blocked the guy chasing Forte on that 56 yard play then that's probably a TD. That really ended up being a 14 point swing.

Just to be fair, that long play should have been a delay

[chw42]

It actually hasn't happened. Aaron Rodgers has never lost at home to the Bears.

 

I'm not counting last year where he only played one series.

 

He technically did play in that game he got hurt in last year.

[chw42]

LOL. I'm sorry, this is just laughable. I'm glad the refs didn't call it. You don't reward stupidity. That throw was a terrible decision, and completely unnecessary at that stage in the game.

 

Even more laughable. At this point, you're just hating on Jay Cutler for the sake of doing it.

 

There's people who defend Cutler to no end and then there's people like you who find every reason to bag on him.

Edited October 6, 2014 by chw42

[2nd_city_saint787]

Just to be fair, that long play should have been a delay

 

Ha, ya I noticed that. I've noticed it many a times though(The san fran game comes to mind), to the point where I'm thinking maybe the play clock we see is different than the one refs are seeing.

[MexSoxFan#1]

It actually hasn't happened. Aaron Rodgers has never lost at home to the Bears.

 

I'm not counting last year where he only played one series.

That means the odds are getting better and better that we'll finally get one against him at GB

 

 

 

Ah, who am I kidding

Edited October 6, 2014 by MexSoxFan#1

[southsider2k5]

Numbers Never Lie ‏@ESPN_Numbers 2h2 hours ago

 

Numbers Never Lie RT @wingoz Peyton Manning since 1998: 503 TD passes All Jets QBs since 1987: 499 TD passes

[Kyyle23]

All bears talk aside, it has been a really weird year across the board. A lot of teams expected to be good, not(Patriots). A lot of teams expected to be bad, actually looking decent(Atlanta). Nobody undefeated anymore. Just strange

[bmags]

All bears talk aside, it has been a really weird year across the board. A lot of teams expected to be good, not(Patriots). A lot of teams expected to be bad, actually looking decent(Atlanta). Nobody undefeated anymore. Just strange

 

Sounds like the NFL to me.

[bmags]

Ha, ya I noticed that. I've noticed it many a times though(The san fran game comes to mind), to the point where I'm thinking maybe the play clock we see is different than the one refs are seeing.

 

Honestly, it's just not called very often because it is usually bang bang and they need to check two places at once. I don't think it's that big of a deal unless a full second has passed. The games are so long now the last thing I need is another "point of emphasis".

[Chisoxfn]

All bears talk aside, it has been a really weird year across the board. A lot of teams expected to be good, not(Patriots). A lot of teams expected to be bad, actually looking decent(Atlanta). Nobody undefeated anymore. Just strange

I think your example of Falcons isn't necessarily a good one. I don't know anyone who thought they would be bad. Injuries bit them a ton a year ago and were the reason they went from very good to very bad. I do agree with the parody (yes..since you called me out, I decided I'd take the time to spell it vs. just type as fast as I can) though. Saints were supposed to be great and they look lousy. Then again, its funny. Eagles have a very good record but if you watch them play, often times they look pretty poor too.

 

I think a lot of the successes in the league have to do with a few plays going with / against you + the ease of your schedule. Bears schedule is just absurd. I still don't get how a team has to play that many early season road games.

[witesoxfan]

LOL, Jas - it's parity (the state of being equal). Parody is like a satire or a mockery (think Weird Al Yankovic songs).

[bmags]

I think your example of Falcons isn't necessarily a good one. I don't know anyone who thought they would be bad. Injuries bit them a ton a year ago and were the reason they went from very good to very bad. I do agree with the parody (yes..since you called me out, I decided I'd take the time to spell it vs. just type as fast as I can) though. Saints were supposed to be great and they look lousy. Then again, its funny. Eagles have a very good record but if you watch them play, often times they look pretty poor too.

 

I think a lot of the successes in the league have to do with a few plays going with / against you + the ease of your schedule. Bears schedule is just absurd. I still don't get how a team has to play that many early season road games.

LOL.

[Rowand44]

All bears talk aside, it has been a really weird year across the board. A lot of teams expected to be good, not(Patriots). A lot of teams expected to be bad, actually looking decent(Atlanta). Nobody undefeated anymore. Just strange

The Falcons are an odd example considering they're 2-3.

[chw42]

The Falcons are an odd example considering they're 2-3.

 

The Falcons don't play defense and their offense is nothing special outside of the Georgia Dome.

 

If the game next week was in Chicago, I'd give a big edge to the Bears. But since it's in Atlanta, I actually don't like our chances.

[Kyyle23]

The Falcons are an odd example considering they're 2-3.

 

After watching Hard Knocks i expected dumpster fire. Last year Jaguars dumpster fire.

 

 

A parody of parity.

[iamshack]

I hope Jason bans all of you!!!

[Chisoxfn]

LOL.

I quit.

[Balta1701]

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[Jenksismyhero]

Jenks, I don't know where the hell you have been for the last 2 + years, but half the throws into Marshall are when he is surrounded by defenders. The only difference between that interception and the scores of balls he catches is that he dropped the ball and a defender snagged it.

 

You guys can't ignore the countless times Jay fits these passes in for big completions and then just complain about the one that gets picked off. That's what this offense is - big, strong receivers that use their body and technique to catch passes in traffic.

 

And yes, the defense created some turnovers, but they also got completely gashed for 2/3 of the game when Carolina had zero of their top 3 running backs and Cam is nowhere near as effective running the ball as he was in years past.

 

You're right, and he gets picked a lot because of it. I don't have a problem throwing it into a tight window when it's one on one or when he's throwing it into a zone. I have a problem with him throwing it up in the air for someone to catch when it's one on three. Marshall is good, he's not THAT good. And again, time and place. It's not necessary to make that throw, just like it wasn't necessary to make that throw in the Bills game.

 

And while I agree that Jay does a lot of good, there are a lot of QB's in the league (and out of the league) who can make good throws and score points. Jay is obviously an average to good QB, let's not take what I say to mean he's an absolute train wreck every week. But for what he has in physical talent, and what he has on the field, it's just flat unacceptable. And it's ludicrous that fans, including many on this board, look past that and complain that he didn't get that PI call, as if that matters.

[Jenksismyhero]

Hard to argue that he doesn't have his faults...I was extremely frustrated with him over the course of the last 6 quarters, but you're completely ignoring the good and just focusing on the bad.

 

Because the bad costs games? He could throw for 400 yards and 3 TD's every week, but if he's also throwing picks in the 4th that costs his team the game he's still not going to be a "good" QB in my book.

[Jenksismyhero]

Even more laughable. At this point, you're just hating on Jay Cutler for the sake of doing it.

 

There's people who defend Cutler to no end and then there's people like you who find every reason to bag on him.

 

It's not like I'm looking that hard for reasons to criticize him... he makes the case for me.

Edited October 6, 2014 by Jenksismybitch

[iamshack]

Because the bad costs games? He could throw for 400 yards and 3 TD's every week, but if he's also throwing picks in the 4th that costs his team the game he's still not going to be a "good" QB in my book.

Well he wins us some games as well.

 

No one here is saying he is without faults, or that he doesn't cost us games now and then.

 

Keep in mind that I'm not Jay's biggest supporter either, but I think it's disingenuous to focus entirely on the bad throws without praising him for the really good throws he makes.

 

Basically, I still want to see more before I'm calling this entire thing a failure.

[Kyyle23]

The thing that is standing out to me the most is the Bears simply cannot play a complete game from any phase, much less all three going at once. it is always a quarter, or a half, and then it falls apart. And usually it falls apart quickly for all three phases once something goes wrong.

[iamshack]

The thing that is standing out to me the most is the Bears simply cannot play a complete game from any phase, much less all three going at once. it is always a quarter, or a half, and then it falls apart. And usually it falls apart quickly for all three phases once something goes wrong.

And that is a lack of coaching and a lack of leadership within the roster.

 

For all those who defend Jay for what he does on the sidelines, this is an area where he needs to apparently step up.