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If you think the coaches are the only problem, you are very wrong.

 

When you play this badly, the problems are very, very widespread. I'd look to the team leaders on offense and defense - likely Cutler and Briggs - as tremendous failures in their positions as well. Of course, the largest problem is that the players aren't good enough.

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QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 08:06 AM)
If you think the coaches are the only problem, you are very wrong.

 

When you play this badly, the problems are very, very widespread. I'd look to the team leaders on offense and defense - likely Cutler and Briggs - as tremendous failures in their positions as well. Of course, the largest problem is that the players aren't good enough.

Then that is on Emery. Coaches have to be a huge problem. Even though the score reflects it, when the Bears go into Lambeau, it isn't like Augustana going into Columbus to face Ohio State where the best player on Augustana isn't as good as the worst player on OSU. I was watching the postgame shows with all the ex players who were saying some of these things that were happening shouldn't be happening after one week in training camp, let alone the 9th game of the season. And they were blaming coaches. The defensive talent level may not be on par with others, but it isn't 106 points in 2 games bad. And that is with the foot off the gas. This team probably gives up close to 80 or more each game if NE or GB leave their starters in and play a legit entire game.

 

Offensively, there is plenty of talent.

 

To me, and I always defend Robin, there is a huge difference in how much a coach means in football vs. baseball. Trestman has to go. His entire staff needs to go. Emery, just with his poor decision of marrying the Bears to Cutler, probably needs to go and get back into strength and conditioning. The Miami game was bad. The New England game was about as bad as it can get, until GB. Perhaps the worst Bears game of all time. They thought they had a great week of practice and were well prepared. That shows you they are clueless.

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QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 08:06 AM)
If you think the coaches are the only problem, you are very wrong.

 

When you play this badly, the problems are very, very widespread. I'd look to the team leaders on offense and defense - likely Cutler and Briggs - as tremendous failures in their positions as well. Of course, the largest problem is that the players aren't good enough.

 

As a whole though, I think the Bears might have a better roster than Green Bay does. The Packers are much better at QB. Their coaching staff is better. The Bears are better at WR, TE, RB, and on the OL. Bears DL is better. GB is better at LB and in the secondary. Ted Thompson's drafting is vastly overrated. They have Aaron Rodgers and boy does he cover up a lot of warts. The Packers aren't even a playoff team with a replacement level QB.

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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 08:15 AM)
As a whole though, I think the Bears might have a better roster than Green Bay does. The Packers are much better at QB. Their coaching staff is better. The Bears are better at WR, TE, RB, and on the OL. Bears DL is better. GB is better at LB and in the secondary. Ted Thompson's drafting is vastly overrated. They have Aaron Rodgers and boy does he cover up a lot of warts. The Packers aren't even a playoff team with a replacement level QB.

 

ARodgers is a divine being. He is just a winner and a leader.

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QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 08:06 AM)
If you think the coaches are the only problem, you are very wrong.

 

When you play this badly, the problems are very, very widespread. I'd look to the team leaders on offense and defense - likely Cutler and Briggs - as tremendous failures in their positions as well. Of course, the largest problem is that the players aren't good enough.

 

You can't fire the players. And when the team looks as underprepared and lost as the Bears did for the last two weeks, with a bye week in between, a large portion of that falls on the coaching staff. There was breakdowns in all three phases that led to scores, that is terrible.

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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 03:17 PM)
Trestman on the radio this morning stated that he still believes in the current coaching staff.....

 

How oblivious can you be....

 

Yeah it would be so much better if he threw his assistants under the bus. That would fix the team.

 

The team sucks, our coaching sucks, I know everyone wants a symbolic gesture of anger, but who cares about that? You think he's really happy with what he's gotten out of his assistants?

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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 09:17 AM)
Trestman on the radio this morning stated that he still believes in the current coaching staff.....

 

How oblivious can you be....

He thought his team was well prepared before last night's game. That is really all you need to know. Randall Cobb said the Packers suspected the Bears would roll over if they got off to a fast start.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 09:26 AM)
Yeah it would be so much better if he threw his assistants under the bus. That would fix the team.

 

The team sucks, our coaching sucks, I know everyone wants a symbolic gesture of anger, but who cares about that? You think he's really happy with what he's gotten out of his assistants?

 

I don't think it is symbolic to fire Tucker or Decamillis right now. They are both not doing their jobs, and it is quite alarming how bad it has become. Those are two coordinAtors in way over their heads and losing them right now won't hurt one bit

 

That being said, I absolutely did not expect to hear Trestman put his coordinators and assistants on blast, it isn't in his nature. He is like Jauron, he is gonna go down with the Shoop

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 09:34 AM)
I don't think it is symbolic to fire Tucker or Decamillis right now. They are both not doing their jobs, and it is quite alarming how bad it has become. Those are two coordinAtors in way over their heads and losing them right now won't hurt one bit

 

That being said, I absolutely did not expect to hear Trestman put his coordinators and assistants on blast, it isn't in his nature. He is like Jauron, he is gonna go down with the Shoop

Is Shoop at Purdue now?

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QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 06:06 AM)
If you think the coaches are the only problem, you are very wrong.

 

When you play this badly, the problems are very, very widespread. I'd look to the team leaders on offense and defense - likely Cutler and Briggs - as tremendous failures in their positions as well. Of course, the largest problem is that the players aren't good enough.

Briggs has been too busy telling everyone during the bye week (indirectly) how bad this coaching staff is compared to Lovie.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 06:14 AM)
Then that is on Emery. Coaches have to be a huge problem. Even though the score reflects it, when the Bears go into Lambeau, it isn't like Augustana going into Columbus to face Ohio State where the best player on Augustana isn't as good as the worst player on OSU. I was watching the postgame shows with all the ex players who were saying some of these things that were happening shouldn't be happening after one week in training camp, let alone the 9th game of the season. And they were blaming coaches. The defensive talent level may not be on par with others, but it isn't 106 points in 2 games bad. And that is with the foot off the gas. This team probably gives up close to 80 or more each game if NE or GB leave their starters in and play a legit entire game.

 

Offensively, there is plenty of talent.

 

To me, and I always defend Robin, there is a huge difference in how much a coach means in football vs. baseball. Trestman has to go. His entire staff needs to go. Emery, just with his poor decision of marrying the Bears to Cutler, probably needs to go and get back into strength and conditioning. The Miami game was bad. The New England game was about as bad as it can get, until GB. Perhaps the worst Bears game of all time. They thought they had a great week of practice and were well prepared. That shows you they are clueless.

That is what happens when we have the worst coaching in the league. I'm not absolving Emery either or the players and I've been saying it is time for a clean house.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 10:04 AM)
That is what happens when we have the worst coaching in the league. I'm not absolving Emery either or the players and I've been saying it is time for a clean house.

 

Jen Lada ‏@JenLada 9m9 minutes ago

.@PatrickMannelly says sometimes Trestman would say "good practice" last yr & he'd look up & think "No it wasn't. Why are you lying?" Hmmm.

 

 

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