StrangeSox Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 01:35 PM) Why do players have to be protected and coddled so much? They're not doing their job, what's wrong with people talking about it, anonymous or not? It's about handling it like a professional. Kromer is not just some random person talking about an athlete sucking. He's that athlete's coach, and he has daily direct access to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 01:19 PM) The fact that he didnt address the player directly until he was outed is absolutely a problem. Phil will talk s*** to your face and to the media. I know you hate Cutler and this is great for your narrative, but it isnt the same. Phil will do both. Don't be naive enough to think Phil has never been a source without being named. We all love these sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 01:22 PM) Yeah, we don't actually know that Kromer has confronted Jay this directly in private previously. If he hadn't, doing it anonymously through the media is pretty crappy. Cutler said during his press conference that this concerns weren't previously told to him privately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 03:25 PM) Cutler said during his press conference that this concerns weren't previously told to him privately. "You throw me under the bus I throw you under the bus. Tell Aaron Kromer I said **** you"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 01:36 PM) Never thought that cutler would walk out of this situation looking like a pretty mature guy. All season long he has handled things very professionally from the media standpoint. Results have sucked for the team but he's remained extremely composed with the media and refused to throw anyone under the bus, even though privately, I am sure he is totally over this and fully on board of getting the heck out of Chicago. Yep and he is smart enough to know that he increases his chances of being able to do that by being professional and composed. If he responds as we would have expected him to respond there would be no chance of another team taking him. There still is probably no chance on another team taking him regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 01:32 PM) "You throw me under the bus I throw you under the bus. Tell Aaron Kromer I said **** you"! Except that is the exact opposite of how he handled the press conference. He handled it with nothing but class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 01:10 PM) Yup. A couple of zingers by the Saints and Lions and that could cap it off These are the final scores I'm hoping for... Saints 45 Bears 17 Lions 37 Bears 13 That should do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 11:05 PM) These are the final scores I'm hoping for... Saints 45 Bears 17 Lions 37 Bears 13 That should do it We will see but somehow the Saints are bigger underachievers than the Bears this year, although they aren't as dysfunctional. Who knows what will happen Monday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Cutler sucks. You'd think that having one of the best QBs in the game as your main rival would be enough to push you to be better, but its clear that he just does not care enough to be a winner. Bears fans deserve better, and I will not watch this sack of crap play football ever again. Cutlers legacy in Chicago will be in the butt-end of bad jokes and moments of unfortunate reminiscence. He'll be as fondly remembered as Jose Paniagua, Alexander Karpotzev, Sammy Sosa, Albert Belle, and Ben Wallace etc in the annals of recent Chicago sports history. Winning a Super Bowl isn't even necessary as long as he cared enough! Brian Urlacher was driven to be the best football player that he could be, and he didn't win a championship, but he will be beloved by Bears fans forever. Jay Cutler is a worthless sack of crap and obviously doesn't even care about in the very least, having a lasting legacy of greatness in a town so passionate about sports as Chicago. He's got his money, and his family, and that's all he cares about. Good for you, Jay. I saw you make an appearance in some show about fantasy football leagues. You should have gone with acting as a career, because you're a damn good one, and you wouldn't have pissed off an entire fan base with your utter ineptitude. Edited December 13, 2014 by South Sider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 These are the type of posts that really make me want to see Jay Cutler succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 13, 2014 -> 05:02 AM) These are the type of posts that really make me want to see Jay Cutler succeed. It's amazing how fans think they know what's going on in Jay's head. Anyone who says he doesn't care should just go away. If he shows emotion, he's a poor teammate. If he's stoic, he doesn't care. Gmab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 13, 2014 -> 05:02 AM) These are the type of posts that really make me want to see Jay Cutler succeed. Yup. That may as well have been a call into the radio. Meathead fan mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 13, 2014 -> 05:52 AM) It's amazing how fans think they know what's going on in Jay's head. Anyone who says he doesn't care should just go away. If he shows emotion, he's a poor teammate. If he's stoic, he doesn't care. Gmab What you should care about is his stoic performances on the field, the fact that after 6 coordinators, he still can't run any of their offenses, he's gotten coaches hired and fired, and that he most importantly, was paid the highest salary this year, yet can't read a defense (which is why his audibling is terrible and why zone defenses give him fits). I was a Cutler defender for years, but they literally gave him God status in Halas Hall(though he never proved he deserved it) and has failed every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I've been a big Jay Cutler apologist for his entire tenure as a Chicago Bear. "He'll get better" I kept telling myself, and everyone. Has he gotten better? I've wanted Jay Cutler to succeed ever since he got traded here. Has he succeeded in the slightest? Call it meathead if you want, but I fully disagree. Bears fans deserve better. I'm fed up with trying to tell myself that he's going to become a better quarterback. But you know what, I will give you that he probably cares just enough because why? It's his job to care about football. But what he lacks is the mentality to push himself to become better. To be one of the best, instead of an average QB. And I'd honestly be shocked if, 15 years from now when Cutlers long gone and retired, he cared at all that he was a Chicago sports disaster and certainly not beloved by some of the best fans in sports. I give you, my post was very passionate, but that's equally as passionate as I used to be about being a Cutler believer. I don't know about you guys, but it's been long enough for me. I would gladly eat my words if Cutler was a top QB next year... but do we really see that happening, under any coach, in any system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 13, 2014 -> 05:02 AM) These are the type of posts that really make me want to see Jay Cutler succeed. Nobody wants to see Cutler fail that is a Bears fan. It is disingenuous to say he has earn his pay this year. People just want him to perform based on the contract he was paid. He simply is not at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I think it's perfectly valid to complain about Cutlers lack of success and the problems in his game. I think it is pretty stupid to turn that into a complaint about what he cares about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 13, 2014 -> 11:33 AM) I think it's perfectly valid to complain about Cutlers lack of success and the problems in his game. I think it is pretty stupid to turn that into a complaint about what he cares about. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 13, 2014 -> 11:41 AM) Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Even the most ardent Cutler critic like Jenks wants to be proven wrong, as Bears fans we would love to see Jay succeed, but after so many years of mediocre play coupled with that ridiculous contract, we're fed up. Hopefully, this coaching staff is on the way out, we're stuck with Jay, maybe he won't be so terrible with a coaching staff that isn't way in over their heads now that he has weapons. In the past, we've had OCs that were competant, just didn't have the talent, now the Bears have the talent but the coaching staff are a bunch of mental midgets. I'm STILL willing to give Jay a chance to prove us all wrong, even though the odds that he's anything other than a physically gifted but low football IQ, turnover prone, fundamentally unsound QB are very low at this point of his career. Edited December 13, 2014 by MexSoxFan#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Dec 13, 2014 -> 01:47 PM) Even the most ardent Cutler critic like Jenks wants to be proven wrong, as Bears fans we would love to see Jay succeed, but after so many years of mediocre play coupled with that ridiculous contract, we're fed up. Hopefully, this coaching staff is on the way out, we're stuck with Jay, maybe he won't be so terrible with a coaching staff that isn't way in over their heads now that he has weapons. In the past, we've had OCs that were competant, just didn't have the talent, now the Bears have the talent but the coaching staff are a bunch of mental midgets. I'm STILL willing to give Jay a chance to prove us all wrong, even though the odds that he's anything other than a physically gifted but low football IQ, turnover prone, fundamentally unsound QB are very low at this point of his career. The only guy I can think of that can save Jay from Jay is Martz. He didn't allow you to check out of plays, no matter what the defense was showing. Problem is, he didn't have the horses outside of Jay. If he came back, you have Jeffrey, Marshall, Bennett, Forte and a decent line. Would Jay get sacked more? Yes. Would he be able to take advantage of his arm? Yes. Outside of him, I don't really know or can think of a coordinator or coach who can get anymore out of Jay than we've already seen. For a guy making as much as he, that's unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 07:19 AM) How was Kromer not fired on Monday when this happened? He can't be in the building still. God this is such a horrible franchise right now. I really don't think this coaching staff survives. He's the only smart one of the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Dec 13, 2014 -> 03:36 PM) The only guy I can think of that can save Jay from Jay is Martz. He didn't allow you to check out of plays, no matter what the defense was showing. Problem is, he didn't have the horses outside of Jay. If he came back, you have Jeffrey, Marshall, Bennett, Forte and a decent line. Would Jay get sacked more? Yes. Would he be able to take advantage of his arm? Yes. Outside of him, I don't really know or can think of a coordinator or coach who can get anymore out of Jay than we've already seen. For a guy making as much as he, that's unacceptable. Or is it the other way around? Do you need someone to adapt the system to what he has (Cutler) or do you try to change Cutler? I think we've seen enough of the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Martz is no savior. if he was such a great OC he would be employed right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) Manziel might be worse than Tebow Kinda shows you the huge gap (no surprise) between the NFL and college football Makes my wonder why are a lot of people fans of crappy level football Edited December 14, 2014 by MexSoxFan#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I think Jordy Nelson had a real life Space Jam incident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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