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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 04:23 PM)
Seattle needs the Cardinals to fall apart, otherwise Green Bay would be hosting

Seattle wins out and they win the West but there's a lot of possible tie breaking scenarios between Seattle, GB, Philly and Dallas so not really sure how that's going to get sorted out yet.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 04:23 PM)
Seattle needs the Cardinals to fall apart, otherwise Green Bay would be hosting

 

They are gonna have to start Ryan Lindley or Logan Thomas at QB, so an Arizona collapse is very possible. Although Seattle needs to worry about San Francisco today first

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That Buffalo defense is no joke. I knew they have a good front five, but that secondary played great yesterday.

 

Packers really blew it and now may have to go into Seattle. They made a ton of mistakes, but a horrible game plan by McCarthy. They threw the ball 45 times on a day when Lacy was averaging over 6.5 yards per carry. Dumb.

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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 08:24 AM)
That Buffalo defense is no joke. I knew they have a good front five, but that secondary played great yesterday.

 

Packers really blew it and now may have to go into Seattle. They made a ton of mistakes, but a horrible game plan by McCarthy. They threw the ball 45 times on a day when Lacy was averaging over 6.5 yards per carry. Dumb.

 

You guys are gonna be the world's biggest Cardinals fans on Sunday night. They play great at home, but given the dire QB situation they are still 7.5 point underdogs.

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 08:37 AM)
You guys are gonna be the world's biggest Cardinals fans on Sunday night. They play great at home, but given the dire QB situation they are still 7.5 point underdogs.

 

I just don't know how the Cardinals are going to win another game with Ryan Lindley at QB. It has to suck to get this far and have all of your QB get hurt.

 

 

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QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 02:35 PM)
Manziel might be worse than Tebow

 

Kinda shows you the huge gap (no surprise) between the NFL and college football

 

Makes my wonder why are a lot of people fans of crappy level football

 

 

And this decision has been made after 1 NFL start. Okay then.

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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 08:24 AM)
That Buffalo defense is no joke. I knew they have a good front five, but that secondary played great yesterday.

 

Packers really blew it and now may have to go into Seattle. They made a ton of mistakes, but a horrible game plan by McCarthy. They threw the ball 45 times on a day when Lacy was averaging over 6.5 yards per carry. Dumb.

 

Mario Williams is damn near unstoppable right now. It's amazing to think that the Texans, for 5 games, had both Mario Williams and JJ Watt. Frankly, I'm not sure there's a better 4-3 end in the game right now.

 

The Bills really confused Rodgers in the secondary but it definitely wasn't all his fault.

 

The Bills will be a scary team if they can get into the postseason, but that involves them beating both Oakland and New England, both on the road, and then getting some help too.

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 09:19 AM)
Mario Williams is damn near unstoppable right now. It's amazing to think that the Texans, for 5 games, had both Mario Williams and JJ Watt. Frankly, I'm not sure there's a better 4-3 end in the game right now.

 

The Bills really confused Rodgers in the secondary but it definitely wasn't all his fault.

 

The Bills will be a scary team if they can get into the postseason, but that involves them beating both Oakland and New England, both on the road, and then getting some help too.

 

 

Wite, what are they going to do at QB for next year? Take a run at a young veteran? RG3, Bradford?

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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 09:27 AM)
Buffalo needs to figure out the QB spot soon. They are going waste a great defense if not.

 

Cause they aren't going anywhere without a QB.

 

Wasting a great defense due to the lack of a good QB? Where have I heard that one before?

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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 09:26 AM)
Wite, what are they going to do at QB for next year? Take a run at a young veteran? RG3, Bradford?

 

I have no idea, all I know is that I'm counting on them to screw it up.

 

I also think Orton has been used because he gives them the best chance to win. It doesn't mean they've given up on Manuel, but the coaching staff was trying to save their jobs. It's certainly possible they've done that at this point, and they've been creative in the past about bringing talent in, but I have no idea what they're going to do at QB.

 

Frankly, the QB doesn't even have to be someone that's good, it just has to be someone that's not bad. I have no problem with what Orton's done this year, but he's a bad QB.

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That wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, but I think the Bears would have to cut Cutler before the Bills did something like that, and that contract he just signed had a ton of guaranteed money in it. Unless the Bears felt there was absolutely no way of coming back from it and releasing him was the only option, it'd be damn near impossible.

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 08:31 AM)
That wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, but I think the Bears would have to cut Cutler before the Bills did something like that, and that contract he just signed had a ton of guaranteed money in it. Unless the Bears felt there was absolutely no way of coming back from it and releasing him was the only option, it'd be damn near impossible.

I'll say it once and I'll say it 100 times...if the Bears wanted to, they would be able to trade Cutler. Bills are just one of a handful of teams that with a league average QB would be playoff teams. Rams / Texans go along with them and then you have a team like the Titans who wouldn't be a playoff team, however, they have always been high on Jay and fan base would support him from his Vandy days. I think Jay ends up in one of those 4 places, if the Bears make a wholesale organizational change (top down) and the new team isn't interested in keeping Jay and would prefer to start from scratch. I'd even say a team like Arizona might be interested, depending on Palmer's long-term health. They can't just waste that defense.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 10:34 AM)
I'll say it once and I'll say it 100 times...if the Bears wanted to, they would be able to trade Cutler. Bills are just one of a handful of teams that with a league average QB would be playoff teams. Rams / Texans go along with them and then you have a team like the Titans who wouldn't be a playoff team, however, they have always been high on Jay and fan base would support him from his Vandy days. I think Jay ends up in one of those 4 places, if the Bears make a wholesale organizational change (top down) and the new team isn't interested in keeping Jay and would prefer to start from scratch. I'd even say a team like Arizona might be interested, depending on Palmer's long-term health. They can't just waste that defense.

 

would that be possible after giving Palmer all of that new paper three days before he tore up his knee? You would have to think their cap would be mangled next season if they brought cutler in too

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 08:40 AM)
would that be possible after giving Palmer all of that new paper three days before he tore up his knee? You would have to think their cap would be mangled next season if they brought cutler in too

Probably true...I don't know all the nuances of the Palmer deal and how much was guarantee which ultimately will be a large driver of cap hit. Given his injury history, you would have thought they would have had some protection built in, but I don't know that for a fact. It is interesting, how, our organizational incompetence is making Jay look better and more mature, and that might actually allow us to truly start from scratch this off-season (if the franchise wanted to).

 

By the way...I don't know if I endorse that or not. I think a lot of it comes down to where we are picking. It sickens me to say this, but I think Jameis is the franchise QB in this draft. But unless we brought in some real, powerful football people, to interview him and of course coach him and develop him (both as a person and a football player), I would be too worried about it turning into a disaster. Dude plays in an NFL system, massive pressure...yes he is an idiot, but Dilfer (in my opinion the best QB analyst in the game) just raves about him from his one on one's with him as well as watching film and just chatting with him. Say the guy just knows football and puts in the work. A lot of this comes down to that one case and what all the evidence was. If you throw that out (not saying you could...but if through interviews and everything, you felt comfortable he didn't do anything wrong)...than you could make a much bigger case that he is just a young guy who is growing up.

 

Yes, his other actions were stupid...but they certainly weren't anything like the first allegation.

 

More I type this...the more I don't know. Mariotta is obviously the safe bet, I just don't know that he is a pro QB. I have issues with him reading NFL defenses, etc. All I know is if we are going to go with a new QB, it is even more crucial to ensure we have a strong head coach and front office to hopefully make the right decision.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 10:47 AM)
Probably true...I don't know all the nuances of the Palmer deal and how much was guarantee which ultimately will be a large driver of cap hit. Given his injury history, you would have thought they would have had some protection built in, but I don't know that for a fact.

 

lol, Palmer didnt even give them one full game after he signed that contract

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