2014-2015 NFL Football thread

[TheTruth05]

When this bears regime is out the door(hopefully in 3 weeks), i have a feeling there is gonna be a lot of anonymous stories about how badly dysfunctional this group really is. Who knows, maybe someone will actually put their name on it.

 

I think the way things are run at Halas Hall, the way they like to beat things into the ground, Emery and Trest and Cutty will all be present in 2015 and feeding fans the same crap.

[Y2Jimmy0]

I think the way things are run at Halas Hall, the way they like to beat things into the ground, Emery and Trest and Cutty will all be present in 2015 and feeding fans the same crap.

 

 

I don't think Trestman survives. He really can't at this point.

[Kyyle23]

I think the way things are run at Halas Hall, the way they like to beat things into the ground, Emery and Trest and Cutty will all be present in 2015 and feeding fans the same crap.

 

2 weeks ago, i would have agreed with you. After last night, I really dont believe there is any chance Trestman survives and I think they will try as hard as they can to move Cutler

[ChiSox_Sonix]

If only there was another thread for it so people like me could avoid it.

 

It must be awful having to sift through about 20 fantasy posts throughout the year in a thread with 6000 posts in it.

[southsider2k5]

People watched the Bears last night? Why?

[Y2Jimmy0]

People watched the Bears last night? Why?

 

 

Well I went to the game because I bought tickets in week 3. I would have shut it off at home though.

[Harry Chappas]

People watched the Bears last night? Why?

 

They are the epitome of fun bad.

 

Let's go for a fake and do so with 10 men on the field. Between that and the WR false starts, just amazing.

 

[Boogua]

People watched the Bears last night? Why?

Because they're really easy to gamble on. If they face a bad QB they can usually win or cover. If they face a good QB the defense gets picked apart.

[LittleHurt05]

2 weeks ago, i would have agreed with you. After last night, I really dont believe there is any chance Trestman survives and I think they will try as hard as they can to move Cutler

 

There were some strong quotes from Emery talking about how mad he was about the Kromer thing, and he specifically said that firing Kromer would have been 100% Trestman's decision, that's how their chain of command works.

 

Given that Emery hired Trestman, I think he has to fire him, or else it's way more likely he loses his job with him in the next year or two, barring a miracle.

[LittleHurt05]

Brad Biggs ‏@BradBiggs 57m57 minutes ago

NFL announces #Bears have selected Jay Cutler as team's Man of the Year, putting him in running for Walter Payton Man of the Year award.

[witesoxfan]

You guys seriously think anybody would give up even a 7th round pick for Cutler and that contract? There's no way that's possible. Maybe if he were underpaid or halfway through the contract, but teams are on the hook for guaranteed money.

 

I think he'd be much better with a change of scenery, but IMO, he's the least valuable QB in the league right now.

[bmags]

There were some strong quotes from Emery talking about how mad he was about the Kromer thing, and he specifically said that firing Kromer would have been 100% Trestman's decision, that's how their chain of command works.

 

Given that Emery hired Trestman, I think he has to fire him, or else it's way more likely he loses his job with him in the next year or two, barring a miracle.

 

Emery doesn't deserve to have a job here. All of this is his doing, ultimately.

[LittleHurt05]

You guys seriously think anybody would give up even a 7th round pick for Cutler and that contract? There's no way that's possible. Maybe if he were underpaid or halfway through the contract, but teams are on the hook for guaranteed money.

 

I think he'd be much better with a change of scenery, but IMO, he's the least valuable QB in the league right now.

 

It's only two years guaranteed, that's not major. The problem is, why would a win now team like Buffalo or Arizona want a QB that turns the ball over so much? They don't need a gunslinger, they just need someone who can make the occasional deep throw and won't lose games.

[LittleHurt05]

Emery doesn't deserve to have a job here. All of this is his doing, ultimately.

 

I agree, but I just don't see the Bears firing him too.

[gatnom]

You guys seriously think anybody would give up even a 7th round pick for Cutler and that contract? There's no way that's possible. Maybe if he were underpaid or halfway through the contract, but teams are on the hook for guaranteed money.

 

I think he'd be much better with a change of scenery, but IMO, he's the least valuable QB in the league right now.

 

While I wouldn't expect to get anything for Cutler, I also wouldn't be surprised if he were actually valued decently among NFL GM's since there really are not that many QB's out there in general, let alone one with his physical abilities.

 

 

[bmags]

You guys seriously think anybody would give up even a 7th round pick for Cutler and that contract? There's no way that's possible. Maybe if he were underpaid or halfway through the contract, but teams are on the hook for guaranteed money.

 

I think he'd be much better with a change of scenery, but IMO, he's the least valuable QB in the league right now.

 

I don't know, Oakland traded a bunch for Carson Palmer. There are stupid teams in NFL.

[Jenksismyhero]

Stupid teams that will convince themselves that the Bears organization was the problem, not Cutler.

 

My dream is that everyone from Emery, the coaches, Cutler, nearly everyone on defense, etc. are gone. But this is the Bears guys. Kromer will get canned. Tucker will get canned. And that's it. They'll keep singing the praises of the future and potential and progress and Bear Down and Ditka and blah blah and we'll accept our typical .500 or worse, no playoff season as we have for nearly ever season for the last 40 years.

 

[Y2Jimmy0]

Stupid teams that will convince themselves that the Bears organization was the problem, not Cutler.

 

My dream is that everyone from Emery, the coaches, Cutler, nearly everyone on defense, etc. are gone. But this is the Bears guys. Kromer will get canned. Tucker will get canned. And that's it. They'll keep singing the praises of the future and potential and progress and Bear Down and Ditka and blah blah and we'll accept our typical .500 or worse, no playoff season as we have for nearly ever season for the last 40 years.

 

 

And Cavanaugh will be OC and Pasqualoni as DC? I'm not buying it.

[Kyyle23]

You guys seriously think anybody would give up even a 7th round pick for Cutler and that contract? There's no way that's possible. Maybe if he were underpaid or halfway through the contract, but teams are on the hook for guaranteed money.

 

I think he'd be much better with a change of scenery, but IMO, he's the least valuable QB in the league right now.

 

 

As long as Daniel Snyder owns a team, there is a chance

[Chisoxfn]

Please tell me Cutler demands a trade after this year. He is just awful now.

I think this has a lot more to do with our coaching than Cutler, although Cutler deserves all the heat too. He is not the type of QB who you can put subpar talent around and win. He is the type of guy you put around a very good football team and strong running game with and can win. He is an average to slightly above avg QB, nothing more, and that slightly above average is only very slightly.

 

Just listen to Gruden during the game...we literally are making high school mistakes. Our players clearly aren't buying into the coaching and the philosphy and have evidently tuned out our offensive coaches. Our scheme is awful, our playcalling is unimaginative, and our execution is beyond worthless. Players deserve blame but how you can watch this game and not realize just how bad our coaching is, is beyond me.

 

Only guy I will give any credit to is our defensive coaches as they at least look like they are playing hard and trying. Part of that probably has to do with more rookies playing and fact that more guys have a true sense of pride about them. By the way, Martellus might have made some mistakes but he's clearly trying out there on the offensive side.

 

 

[Jenksismyhero]

I think this has a lot more to do with our coaching than Cutler, although Cutler deserves all the heat too. He is not the type of QB who you can put subpar talent around and win. He is the type of guy you put around a very good football team and strong running game with and can win. He is an average to slightly above avg QB, nothing more, and that slightly above average is only very slightly.

 

Just listen to Gruden during the game...we literally are making high school mistakes. Our players clearly aren't buying into the coaching and the philosphy and have evidently tuned out our offensive coaches. Our scheme is awful, our playcalling is unimaginative, and our execution is beyond worthless. Players deserve blame but how you can watch this game and not realize just how bad our coaching is, is beyond me.

 

Only guy I will give any credit to is our defensive coaches as they at least look like they are playing hard and trying. Part of that probably has to do with more rookies playing and fact that more guys have a true sense of pride about them. By the way, Martellus might have made some mistakes but he's clearly trying out there on the offensive side.

 

Is this a joke? Did you watch the 3 interceptions and fumble he had last night? Coaches are to blame for a lot of the offenses failures this year, but you're literally talking about a guy that has gone through 2 head coaches and 4 or 5 OC's. When are you going to start calling a spade a spade?

[Chisoxfn]

2 weeks ago, i would have agreed with you. After last night, I really dont believe there is any chance Trestman survives and I think they will try as hard as they can to move Cutler

I think the Cutler point is dependent on who they bring in. The money still points to them keeping most everyone.

[illinilaw08]

It's only two years guaranteed, that's not major. The problem is, why would a win now team like Buffalo or Arizona want a QB that turns the ball over so much? They don't need a gunslinger, they just need someone who can make the occasional deep throw and won't lose games.

 

Yeah, the guaranteed $$ for Cutler isn't honestly that bad.

 

Buffalo would be an ideal fit for Cutler. That defense is incredible and I could easily see the Bills or the Texans talking themselves into Cutler being worth the risk. The upside, Cutler thrives, making enough plays to let the team make the playoffs. The downside? He's terrible and your teams are basically what they are at the moment anyway.

 

The problem with the Bears moving on from Cutler, in my mind, is does anyone have confidence that this front office brings the right rookie QB in? A bad QB draft pick sets the rebuild back years...

 

[Chisoxfn]

Is this a joke? Did you watch the 3 interceptions and fumble he had last night? Coaches are to blame for a lot of the offenses failures this year, but you're literally talking about a guy that has gone through 2 head coaches and 4 or 5 OC's. When are you going to start calling a spade a spade?

I already said blame him. You are sitting around ignoring the ignoramous we have running the franchise and throwing it all on Cutler. I said they all deserve blame but the blame starts at the very top. Did you hear Gruden absolutely bash our team into smithereens. False starts, bad coverages, wrong routes, poor QB footwork, too many men on the field in a fake punt...the list goes on and on. It is a sorry franchise right now. Worse than it has ever been in my lifetime because I think we have the worst people in charge of the organization.

[Jenksismyhero]

Yeah, the guaranteed $$ for Cutler isn't honestly that bad.

 

Buffalo would be an ideal fit for Cutler. That defense is incredible and I could easily see the Bills or the Texans talking themselves into Cutler being worth the risk. The upside, Cutler thrives, making enough plays to let the team make the playoffs. The downside? He's terrible and your teams are basically what they are at the moment anyway.

 

The problem with the Bears moving on from Cutler, in my mind, is does anyone have confidence that this front office brings the right rookie QB in? A bad QB draft pick sets the rebuild back years...

 

I mean realistically they're at that point anyway right? It's going to be 2-3 seasons before they can contend anyway. If the draft pick is a miss, at least you can hopefully be a good team looking for a QB to take them over the top in 2-3 seasons.