Chisoxfn Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 09:54 AM) Ok well that settles it then. I hope Winston fails so you guys can be wrong in your strong convictions and I can be right. And when we are right, it won't matter to you cause Bears will be winning. Sounds like a win win. I should point out that I am notoriously wrong on Bears QB's so my thoughts are pretty worthless. I tend to be pretty accurate on other teams but I must be overly biased when it comes to Bears QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 11:48 AM) I don't think he is even very much like Manziel, from the off the field perspective, either. Ya, he's much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 11:55 AM) Wow this would shock me if it happened. After all the talk and rumblings it seemed for sure Ballard was the guy. No offense to Gage, but that doesn't sound like a rock solid source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 09:56 AM) Ya, he's much worse. They are entirely different. One is out partying all the time (nothing illegal) where as the other has had 1 illegal moment and one much more serious, but he was never convicted moment. None of us know what happened there. Had he been innocent though, than really he has had 1 theft incident (which was stupid but in the grand scheme of things minor) and an incident at school that probably never gets blown out of proportion (had it not been for the 1st incident; however, you can't ignore his stupidity for doing said incident given he has had to live in the shadows of that 1st incident). It really comes out to what is out their in the inside circles regarding his main incident. If everyone really doesn't think there was much smoke their (and I have no earthly idea), than I really wouldn't be worried about his off the field issues. However, if 1 is more of a "coverup" than well, I don't take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 10:07 AM) No offense to Gage, but that doesn't sound like a rock solid source. I never said it was a solid source. I don't personally believe it, but thought it was at least worthy of sharing as an FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 You would think with the Bears done interviewing 4 candidates, that some of the candidates would at least start getting informed that the Bears are going to head in a different direction (and at least than, those groups would start leaking info). I guess the question is, do the Bears think they need 2nd round interviews with certain candidates or did they get to spend enough time with them in 1 interview. How come the Chicago media can't figure out when Bowles is interviewing? I figure something gets leaked prior to his interview but would be nice to know when that is scheduled for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 11:17 AM) But if you are being interviewed by the President and CEO, it really doesnt matter. You are jaded, but i dont fault you for it because the Bears have made a lot of mistakes. Hopefully they get things right this time. In a functioning company whether successful or not the CEO and President should have earned the title because they know the business. George and Ted do not know the business they have proven that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Ballard is reportedly still in Chicago (per the Score). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxsoxsoxsox Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 12:16 PM) How come the Chicago media can't figure out when Bowles is interviewing? Brad Biggs @BradBiggs · 3h #Bears interviewing #Cardinals DC Todd Bowles for head coaching position today after schedule change. A look at him http://trib.in/13RIbZu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 10:19 AM) Brad Biggs @BradBiggs · 3h #Bears interviewing #Cardinals DC Todd Bowles for head coaching position today after schedule change. A look at him http://trib.in/13RIbZu I meant like what time. Morning, Afternoon, etc. I say that because when it came to Melo, literally the media was following his limo. Shouldn't they be doing something similar. This is the Bears we are talking about. The Bears trump every other sports franchise in Chicago (like it or not). Scooping this type of news is huge for any Bear reporter and for whichever media outlet employees said reporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Per Ed Werder If KC's Chris Ballard becomes #Bears GM, I wouldn't expect his head coach to be Dave Toub, Doug Pederson or other member of #Chiefs staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Per Jason LaFoncora (NFL Network) Hearing Todd Bowles making very strong impression in head coaching interviews. I expect him to be a factor in this game of musical chairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 12:17 PM) In a functioning company whether successful or not the CEO and President should have earned the title because they know the business. George and Ted do not know the business they have proven that. And if Accorsi isn't asking these candidates questions, exactly what is his purpose? Just to get names? These names were all pretty well known since Emery and Trestman were still Bears employees. George and Ted interviewing someone for football position is like Derrick Rose interviewing potential rocket scientists. IT MAKES NO SENSE. Have Accorsi interview these guys, give his recommondation, and then bring Ted and George in to see if they are comfortable with the dollars and personality. They shouldn't be asking football questions. They have proven they aren't qualified to do that. Edited January 8, 2015 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 11:48 AM) Sonix...your insights are super valuable and very consistent with what I saw and my thoughts. I really think if it weren't for those off the field issues, Winston would be getting talked about as being a once in a generation type QB prospect. That is how good I think his football skills are. And I agree with you that FSU didn't have a lot of talent around him and the dude still carried his team to a playoff game (and led his team back in the National Championship game last year). He has done it all. It would be absurd to not pick him at 7 if he were available (unless he totally bombs interviews, etc). I don't think he is even very much like Manziel, from the off the field perspective, either. Manziel and Winston can not be compared on or off the field. Manziel is a clown looking for attention and he does not have much football talent. Winston is a football talent that needs some professional guidance. The biggest mistake of Winston's life was choosing FSU which seems to have not helped him to mature and placed him in an environment that does not prepare players for life outside of the FSU football womb. I just can not seem to like Winston so I want to think he will be bad. Pretty certain he will not get past the Bucs and then Trestman can grow the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 10:24 AM) And if Accorsi isn't asking these candidates questions, exactly what is his purpose? Just to get names? These names were all pretty well known since Emery and Trestman were still Bears employees. George and Ted interviewing someone for football position is like Derrick Rose interviewing potential rocket scientists. IT MAKES NO SENSE. Have Accorsi interview these guys, give his recommondation, and then bring Ted and George in to see if they are comfortable with the dollars and personality. They shouldn't be asking football questions. They have proven they aren't qualified to do that. Accorsi has been interviewing the GM's, which is the important hire that Ernie is involved with. I am going to presume that something came up with Adam Gase that Ernie didn't attend, but either way, that is less of a focal point since the Bears aren't going to hire a coach without bringing in a GM and the GM will be the one asking the HC the questions that matter and making the final decision. If the Bears were to hire Gase today, without having a GM in place and without Ernie being involved, at that point, we can all get upset cause that would be awful. However, I don't think that is the case and with all of the misinformation out there and the fact that one person reported that Ernie wasn't in that interview, how do we even know that is the case. I know I read multiple tweets that pointed to Ernie taking part in all of the GM interviews (at a minimum). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 12:24 PM) And if Accorsi isn't asking these candidates questions, exactly what is his purpose? Just to get names? These names were all pretty well known since Emery and Trestman were still Bears employees. George and Ted interviewing someone for football position is like Derrick Rose interviewing potential rocket scientists. IT MAKES NO SENSE. Have Accorsi interview these guys, give his recommondation, and then bring Ted and George in to see if they are comfortable with the dollars and personality. They shouldn't be asking football questions. They have proven they aren't qualified to do that. The George and Ted hiring process seems to be similar to a GM drafting players based on a consensus best available player on the board via draft experts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxsoxsoxsox Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 12:28 PM) The George and Ted hiring process seems to be similar to a GM drafting players based on a consensus best available player on the board via draft experts. pretty much. you never know what you're going to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Alright...I'm going to do some Steve like reporting and decide that we will hear that our new GM, Chris Ballard, was part of the Bowles interview. By the end of today we will know who are GM is (I think the Bears brass already knows) and if the Bears like what they hear from Bowles, they will make an aggressive push to stop him from visiting the Niners / Falcons later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 12:34 PM) Alright...I'm going to do some Steve like reporting and decide that we will hear that our new GM, Chris Ballard, was part of the Bowles interview. By the end of today we will know who are GM is (I think the Bears brass already knows) and if the Bears like what they hear from Bowles, they will make an aggressive push to stop him from visiting the Niners / Falcons later on. This would be nice. I am really afraid the Bears are going to come out of left field with some crazy hire of every one we would least expect for both GM and coach. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 12:34 PM) Alright...I'm going to do some Steve like reporting and decide that we will hear that our new GM, Chris Ballard, was part of the Bowles interview. By the end of today we will know who are GM is (I think the Bears brass already knows) and if the Bears like what they hear from Bowles, they will make an aggressive push to stop him from visiting the Niners / Falcons later on. It would be awesome if their new GM is now part of the process, but a pipedream IMO Bowles would take the job if offered.. Why would Bowles blow off the 49ers and Falcons for the Bears, which is considered the worst job of the 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 12:36 PM) This would be nice. I am really afraid the Bears are going to come out of left field with some crazy hire of every one we would least expect for both GM and coach. LOL Dave McGinnis is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 12:36 PM) This would be nice. I am really afraid the Bears are going to come out of left field with some crazy hire of every one we would least expect for both GM and coach. LOL They did that two years ago and look where we are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Like seriously...if they hire Dawson and some random dude that they love (few others love him too) for HC I just might have to quit having a favorite team in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 12:24 PM) And if Accorsi isn't asking these candidates questions, exactly what is his purpose? Just to get names? These names were all pretty well known since Emery and Trestman were still Bears employees. George and Ted interviewing someone for football position is like Derrick Rose interviewing potential rocket scientists. IT MAKES NO SENSE. Have Accorsi interview these guys, give his recommondation, and then bring Ted and George in to see if they are comfortable with the dollars and personality. They shouldn't be asking football questions. They have proven they aren't qualified to do that. How do you know he hasnt interviewed this candidates already? You are making alot of assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 10:42 AM) It would be awesome if their new GM is now part of the process, but a pipedream IMO Bowles would take the job if offered.. Why would Bowles blow off the 49ers and Falcons for the Bears, which is considered the worst job of the 3? I don't think Bowles would necessarily take the job before meeting with the other teams but part of that comes down to how confident is he in terms of his rank with those other teams and if he were to meet with our GM, how good of a sales pitch can our GM make (Supposedly that is a major strength of Ballard's). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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