Quin Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 08:05 PM) Good for him, very courageous move on his part given the timing. This survey of anonymous NFL front office people isn't very positive to say the least. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-f...am-draft-stock/ I actually want the Bears to take him...wanted them to grab Sam, Ealy and Gaines from Mizzou. Here's hoping they still consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 08:05 PM) Good for him, very courageous move on his part given the timing. This survey of anonymous NFL front office people isn't very positive to say the least. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-f...am-draft-stock/ That's sickening. How do they know it won't work if they don't try? It worked just fine at Mizzou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (danman31 @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 08:28 PM) That's sickening. How do they know it won't work if they don't try? It worked just fine at Mizzou. Only "leak" I heard about Sam was that he ranted in his class for 20 minutes about how he couldn't feed his puppy due to not being paid. The general student population had 0 clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Sounds like he wasnt going to be a highly sought after draft pick to start with but it'll be a shame if he goes completely undrsfted for his sake. But I also don't blame a team for not wanting to deal with that headache from the media. I'd like to see a GM survey asking if they'd rather deal with the Tebow media or media spotlight from an openly gay player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (danman31 @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 08:28 PM) That's sickening. How do they know it won't work if they don't try? It worked just fine at Mizzou. A team won their division this year after their #2 receiver publicly dropped the N-word, but a locker room couldn't handle a gay player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I think he did the right thing. He didn't want to be outed. He didn't want rumors to affect his draft stock or standing in the locker room. He didn't want to be what is essentially a ticking time bomb in the locker room, where he'd risk calamity after letting it out in the middle of his career. Now he gets to say "Hey NFL, I'm Michael Sam and I'm gay. Take it or leave it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 02:33 AM) Only "leak" I heard about Sam was that he ranted in his class for 20 minutes about how he couldn't feed his puppy due to not being paid. The general student population had 0 clue. Uh, really? I've heard that he was pretty open about this since. Like October and I don't even know anyone still in Columbia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 09:55 PM) Uh, really? I've heard that he was pretty open about this since. Like October and I don't even know anyone still in Columbia. I heard next to nothing about it. Might just be I exist in different circles (and haven't been able to cover sports until this semester), but the only things about Sam were his rant and that he never, ever talked to media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 So, Herm Edwards had a great segment on ESPN about Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 07:20 AM) So, Herm Edwards had a great segment on ESPN about Sam That whole segment is awkward, and I think Herm was drunk. The lead in question of it being a "problem" was the worst part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Herm is going to get crushed for it(and rightfully so). And if he really was drunk, he will probably lose his job. Too bad the ESPN showrunner wont lose his job for deciding to put him on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (zenryan @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 09:40 PM) Sounds like he wasnt going to be a highly sought after draft pick to start with but it'll be a shame if he goes completely undrsfted for his sake. But I also don't blame a team for not wanting to deal with that headache from the media. I'd like to see a GM survey asking if they'd rather deal with the Tebow media or media spotlight from an openly gay player. The impression I got last night was that he was a moderately highly touted player who made some all-SEC teams at DE, was I wrong in that? The thing is...if this kid actually has some talent and a history of performance, and he drops even a little bit in the draft because of this, he becomes a solid "value" pick that could outperform his draft slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 08:05 AM) The impression I got last night was that he was a moderately highly touted player who made some all-SEC teams at DE, was I wrong in that? The thing is...if this kid actually has some talent and a history of performance, and he drops even a little bit in the draft because of this, he becomes a solid "value" pick that could outperform his draft slot. He was a fantastic college player, but he is 6'2 255-260. He played with his hand in the ground in college and scouts aren't sure if he translates that great to the NFL. He was projected to go anywhere from the 3rd to the 5th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (Boogua @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 09:09 AM) He was a fantastic college player, but he is 6'2 255-260. He played with his hand in the ground in college and scouts aren't sure if he translates that great to the NFL. He was projected to go anywhere from the 3rd to the 5th round. So if he's there in the 6th it would be silly for some team not to grab him unless he performs poorly at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 08:12 AM) So if he's there in the 6th it would be silly for some team not to grab him unless he performs poorly at the combine. Yep. I really wouldn't mind the Bears taking a shot on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 09:05 AM) The impression I got last night was that he was a moderately highly touted player who made some all-SEC teams at DE, was I wrong in that? The thing is...if this kid actually has some talent and a history of performance, and he drops even a little bit in the draft because of this, he becomes a solid "value" pick that could outperform his draft slot. There's quite the range of opinions on him. I've seen him mocked as high as the 2nd round and as low as the 6th and 7th. He put up impressive numbers but some people are skeptical and believe they are inflated because the majority came against weak competition. For example, 9 of his 11.5 sacks came in 3 games against Vandy, Florida and Arkansas State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 There's quite the range of opinions on him. I've seen him mocked as high as the 2nd round and as low as the 6th and 7th. He put up impressive numbers but some people are skeptical and believe they are inflated because the majority came against weak competition. For example, 9 of his 11.5 sacks came in 3 games against Vandy, Florida and Arkansas State Oh, how the mighty have fallen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 02:49 PM) Oh, how the mighty have fallen! Also, Vandy's OT that he was going against is going to the NFL and was their best offensive lineman. The reason Sam is falling is because at the Senior Bowl he did not play well as a LB when that is what teams really wanted to see. But when he put his hand down and went straight ahead he was electric still. For those who want him to succeed, like me, I think best place would be Seattle, where late round picks suddenly, ahem, get way bigger and faster than everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 08:12 AM) So if he's there in the 6th it would be silly for some team not to grab him unless he performs poorly at the combine. I'd love for him to fall to the Bears. He was a dynamite player in the SEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 09:16 AM) Also, Vandy's OT that he was going against is going to the NFL and was their best offensive lineman. The reason Sam is falling is because at the Senior Bowl he did not play well as a LB when that is what teams really wanted to see. But when he put his hand down and went straight ahead he was electric still. For those who want him to succeed, like me, I think best place would be Seattle, where late round picks suddenly, ahem, get way bigger and faster than everyone else. Sounds like a Bears first round draft pick to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 04:55 PM) Sounds like a Bears first round draft pick to me. It actually isn't a bad comparison, except I think Sam is stronger and has better moves arsenal (yes, he has better arsenal of moves than Shea's spinorama he employs at every second). And what I like most is that he never stops on a play. You can't teach that, that's how I knew Sheldon was going to be a player. Sam doesn't take plays off, and despite not always getting sacks he would get at least one good pressure in every game. He was the one about to destroy Manziel when suddenly manziel floated a 40 yard bomb right into his receivers arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 07:20 AM) So, Herm Edwards had a great segment on ESPN about Sam Saw it live. Cringed the entire time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 05:07 PM) Saw it live. Cringed the entire time. Considering the whole Grantland fiasco a few weeks ago I'm surprised ESPN's coverage has been so antiquated. And whoever thought it was important to have that segment...sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 11:07 AM) Saw it live. Cringed the entire time. "You know who we should bring into this for a question and answer segment? A super religious ex-coach!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 11:46 AM) "You know who we should bring into this for a question and answer segment? A apparently drunk super religious ex-coach!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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