Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Feb 19, 2014 -> 06:53 PM) I've got perhaps a dumb question about Cutlers contract. After the Bears pay Jay his 54M guaranteed he can be cut with no cap ramifications. So if they plan on keeping him for 5 years couldn't they theoretically make his cap hit 10.8M every year(if need be) then cut him before the number gets ridiculous? The problem there is that his salary isn't just $10.8 a year, he'll get paid >$54 million in the first 3 years. If they plan on keeping him for 5 years, he's going to make $100 million. They can move some of that cap hit into future years, but if he's going to make $100 million, eventually the Bears will have to take $100 million in cap hits, give or take. They could pay him for probably 3 years and find a way to spread that cap hit out to $10.8 over 5, but then they wouldn't have a quarterback for the last 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 New cap is up 5% to 130 mill. Better or worse than expected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 20, 2014 -> 08:33 AM) New cap is up 5% to 130 mill. Better or worse than expected? I think better. I think everyone was thinking it was going to be 126 mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 @jasonjwilde #Bears' Trestman sounds committed to improving defense. Says this will be a "defensive-oriented" draft for Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Feb 20, 2014 -> 09:13 AM) @jasonjwilde #Bears' Trestman sounds committed to improving defense. Says this will be a "defensive-oriented" draft for Chicago. God, I would hope so. That should be as obvious as saying it will be 'football-oriented.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 They moved Shae McMuffin to LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 20, 2014 -> 09:45 AM) They moved Shae McMuffin to LB. Probably for the best, if you're not trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Feb 20, 2014 -> 09:55 AM) Probably for the best, if you're not trolling. They said he and Bostic are competing for SAM LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Remember last offseason when people were justifying the offense looking so poor because they were facing a defense that was so good? Funny how that worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Clearly the Under Armour gear worn at the NFL Combine is slowing 40 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Clowney ran a 4.4... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Feb 24, 2014 -> 10:36 AM) Clowney ran a 4.4... 37.5" vertical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 He doesn't care about football you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Feb 24, 2014 -> 10:36 AM) Clowney ran a 4.4... His speed was never the question. The guy has no motor. The official 40 time probably wont be a 4.4 since he ran a 4.47 and 4.48. Official times have been slower. Edited February 24, 2014 by RockRaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonik22 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 "I don't care about 4.47 I'm concerned that in a full college football season, Clowney sacked the quarterback 3.5 times." - Peter King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 The guy was constantly double and triple teamed and there's no need for him to go above and beyond because he saw what happened to his teammate Marcus Lattimore when he tried to do too much and got undercut - he went from a 1st/2nd round pick to a 4th round pick. Clowney is still going to be a top 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 24, 2014 -> 10:53 AM) His speed was never the question. The guy has no motor. The official 40 time probably wont be a 4.4 since he ran a 4.47 and 4.48. Official times have been slower. No but this just shows how much of a freak he is. I'm really not worried about his motor at all, the guy is going to be a monster in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 24, 2014 -> 11:03 AM) The guy was constantly double and triple teamed and there's no need for him to go above and beyond because he saw what happened to his teammate Marcus Lattimore when he tried to do too much and got undercut - he went from a 1st/2nd round pick to a 4th round pick. Clowney is still going to be a top 5 pick. So he's the first good college player to be double teamed? Watch his film. The guy will be a freak a certain percentage of time but still has no motor. I think he's a waste of a top 5 pick IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 24, 2014 -> 11:16 AM) So he's the first good college player to be double teamed? Watch his film. The guy will be a freak a certain percentage of time but still has no motor. I think he's a waste of a top 5 pick IMO. And if he goes crazy and tries to get around a tackle, a half back undercuts him to take out his legs, and he tears his ACL, costing himself millions of dollars, are you going to say he's smart? If I were the Rams, I'd try and get Cleveland to move up, and then I'd take him at 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 24, 2014 -> 11:25 AM) And if he goes crazy and tries to get around a tackle, a half back undercuts him to take out his legs, and he tears his ACL, costing himself millions of dollars, are you going to say he's smart? If I were the Rams, I'd try and get Cleveland to move up, and then I'd take him at 4. So he was smart for not trying? I think thats a pretty ridiculous assumption that he was going to tear his knee by trying. 4.53 official time BTW. I still dont get how the electronic time is not official. Edited February 24, 2014 by RockRaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 People basically predicted before this season that Clowney was going to take some plays off to make sure he wasn't going to get hurt. I wouldn't be happy if I were a South Carolina fan but I'm not passing up his insane talent if I'm a NFL gm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Aaron Donald ran a 4.68 with a 10 yard split that was just .03 slower than Clowneys. Dude backed up what you see in his ridiculous highlight videos....If the Bears don't bring back Melton, and Donald is there, that's my pick. Kareem Martins 10 yard split was .03 quicker than Clowneys....If he makes it tho the Bears in the 2nd I'd bust a nut with a Donald/Martin draft. Edited February 24, 2014 by scs787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Hope this helps with understanding the 40 times reported at the Combine: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 24, 2014 -> 11:27 AM) So he was smart for not trying? I think thats a pretty ridiculous assumption that he was going to tear his knee by trying. 4.53 official time BTW. I still dont get how the electronic time is not official. I don't think anybody said he's not trying, but doing what he can to not overexert himself when he's getting double teamed when the guys going up against him bigger than him (up to 40-50 pounds more) is not the worst thing in the world. The DT on his line got 10 sacks and the other DE was up there too with like 8-10 (or so I thought I remembered seeing). A guy with Clowney's talent, no I have no problem with his "lack of motor." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Feb 24, 2014 -> 11:40 AM) Aaron Donald ran a 4.68 with a 10 yard split that was just .03 slower than Clowneys. Dude backed up what you see in his ridiculous highlight videos....If the Bears don't bring back Melton, and Donald is there, that's my pick. He also dominated a lot of the senior bowl practices and drills from what I heard. I'd be all for that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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