witesoxfan Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I also don't believe you can see when he started following people, just that he's following him them. You have to be signed into Twitter to see who he's following. Twitter uses the people you follow to suggest other people who you may be interested in following. I'm assuming most people here will follow the White Sox official account plus a lot of other White Sox themed accounts. Thus, the White Sox accounts are going to appear at the top rather than scattered throughout like the others. Move along, nothing to read here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 11:51 AM) And if he doesn't, they have the pitching version of Adam Dunn. So what. You're a great soldier for this outfit. You believe them when they tell you they can't afford a $36M player if they turn out awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 05:45 PM) So what. You're a great soldier for this outfit. You believe them when they tell you they can't afford a $36M player if they turn out awful. No one has ever said they can't afford it, just that they don't need it and that they aren't giving up a draft pick to sign a player and that he's a bad fit on this team and that people are talking about Ervin Santana in a best case scenario kind of way as a trade chip two years from now. If they said they couldn't afford him, you're right, I wouldn't believe them. I believe they are being cost conscious with their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 05:48 PM) No one has ever said they can't afford it, just that they don't need it and that they aren't giving up a draft pick to sign a player and that he's a bad fit on this team and that people are talking about Ervin Santana in a best case scenario kind of way as a trade chip two years from now. If they said they couldn't afford him, you're right, I wouldn't believe them. I believe they are being cost conscious with their money. If he turns into the pitching version of Dunn he does little harm to the rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 05:59 PM) If he turns into the pitching version of Dunn he does little harm to the rebuild. Is Adam Dunn hurting the rebuild right now? I know a certain someone that would say "Yes, yes, a thousand times yes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GreenSox Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I don't want to spend the money, I don't want to lose the pick and I don't want inflated win totals that hurt our draft position next year, because we aren't contending this year. And I don't want inconsistent pitchers paid big salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 04:19 PM) Is Adam Dunn hurting the rebuild right now? I know a certain someone that would say "Yes, yes, a thousand times yes." What happened to the " I mayy not agree with what you're saying but will defend to the death your right to say it" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 05:59 PM) If he turns into the pitching version of Dunn he does little harm to the rebuild. So then why does Adam Dunn need to be released if that contract does no harm to the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 07:27 PM) So then why does Adam Dunn need to be released if that contract does no harm to the team? While I totally disagree with releasing him, doesn't releasing him mean exactly the opposite of the contract doing harm to the team. Guys making nothing get released all the time. It says his play is doing harm to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 08:39 PM) While I totally disagree with releasing him, doesn't releasing him mean exactly the opposite of the contract doing harm to the team. Guys making nothing get released all the time. It says his play is doing harm to the team. He's. Not. Making. Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 4, 2014 -> 10:02 AM) Rick Hahn would be making a mistake if he holds to this strategy. I can somewhat agree if the scouting and development isn't getting the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 White Sox interested in LHP Chris Capuano according to Chris Cotillo. Asking price remains high though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 15, 2014 -> 11:58 AM) White Sox interested in LHP Chris Capuano according to Chris Cotillo. Asking price remains high though. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) There is not a team in baseball that would want Dunn for anything more than a $1-2M tops, and that's probably overestimating things. That means you've already eaten at least $13-14M of that deal. Is it worth it to f*** the rest of the roster over in hopes of some s***ty middling f***ing prospect at the deadline? No it's not. You release him if you can't get anything out of it. SoxTalk: DERPA DERPA DERPA HE's MAKING TOO MUCH DERPA YOU ARE MISSING THE ENTIRE f***ING POINT SoxTalk: BUT WE'RE GONNA TRADE EM AND GIT SOME OF OUR DERPA BACK DERPA DERPA NO NO NO NO YOU WONT BECAUSE YOU f***ING CANT ITS f***ING GONE, THE MONEY IS GONE Release the motherf***er. But we can't! Too much money! NOOOOOO Still not getting it. RELEASE THE MOTHER f***ER Thank you. Now please tip your pinkies up while you drink your overrated $6 a bottle beer. Edited February 15, 2014 by The Ultimate Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 15, 2014 -> 12:04 PM) Source? Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 1h Source mentioned #WhiteSox, #Marlins, #Dodgers, #Mariners in connection with Chris Capuano. Have heard his ask price is still high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Feb 15, 2014 -> 02:37 PM) There is not a team in baseball that would want Dunn for anything more than a $1-2M tops, and that's probably overestimating things. That means you've already eaten at least $13-14M of that deal. Is it worth it to f*** the rest of the roster over in hopes of some s***ty middling f***ing prospect at the deadline? No it's not. You release him if you can't get anything out of it. SoxTalk: DERPA DERPA DERPA HE's MAKING TOO MUCH DERPA YOU ARE MISSING THE ENTIRE f***ING POINT SoxTalk: BUT WE'RE GONNA TRADE EM AND GIT SOME OF OUR DERPA BACK DERPA DERPA NO NO NO NO YOU WONT BECAUSE YOU f***ING CANT ITS f***ING GONE, THE MONEY IS GONE Release the motherf***er. But we can't! Too much money! NOOOOOO Still not getting it. RELEASE THE MOTHER f***ER Thank you. Now please tip your pinkies up while you drink your overrated $6 a bottle beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Feb 15, 2014 -> 03:37 PM) There is not a team in baseball that would want Dunn for anything more than a $1-2M tops, and that's probably overestimating things. That means you've already eaten at least $13-14M of that deal. Is it worth it to f*** the rest of the roster over in hopes of some s***ty middling f***ing prospect at the deadline? No it's not. You release him if you can't get anything out of it. SoxTalk: DERPA DERPA DERPA HE's MAKING TOO MUCH DERPA [blah blah blah, this continues for a while] Woah. I'm sorry we can't all be infinitely wise like you. Maybe the reason a lot of people haven't acceded to your correctness yet is because you haven't yelled loud enough and for long enough. You should keep trying, then we'll all see the light. Also, maybe we'll see that one type of beer is definitively better than another type and there is a character flaw in people who don't like the same brands as you. This is all really healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 The idea behind hanging on to Dunn and trading him is this, If there was a suitor for Dunn he would most likely be gone already. Paying Dunn to stay off the team or to play for another is just dumb. The point behind playing Dunn is that you hope he plays well enough for a team to be interested in trading for him while taking on his salary. Its not about the potential return because we can all agree Dunn won't bring anything back worth hollering about. Its the best way to get rid of Dunn's contract but he has to play in order to make himself intriguing enough for a team to be willing to trade for him. Besides all that, its just bad business to flat out dump a high salary player if you ever want to sign a FA again in the future. As bad as Dunn has been he's not nearly the bust that Vernon Wells has been ( just showing it could be worse). If we have to sit through one more season of Dunn then so be it, but at least he will be playing which opens the door of potentially trading him. Again, I must say the idea of holding onto and trading Dunn is NOT about trying maximize the return. Its about finding a suitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Feb 15, 2014 -> 02:19 PM) The idea behind hanging on to Dunn and trading him is this, If there was a suitor for Dunn he would most likely be gone already. Paying Dunn to stay off the team or to play for another is just dumb. The point behind playing Dunn is that you hope he plays well enough for a team to be interested in trading for him while taking on his salary. Its not about the potential return because we can all agree Dunn won't bring anything back worth hollering about. Its the best way to get rid of Dunn's contract but he has to play in order to make himself intriguing enough for a team to be willing to trade for him. Besides all that, its just bad business to flat out dump a high salary player if you ever want to sign a FA again in the future. As bad as Dunn has been he's not nearly the bust that Vernon Wells has been ( just showing it could be worse). If we have to sit through one more season of Dunn then so be it, but at least he will be playing which opens the door of potentially trading him. Again, I must say the idea of holding onto and trading Dunn is NOT about trying maximize the return. Its about finding a suitor. Of course we've been over this 1,000 times, but Dunn's contract is not hindering the Sox at all. Dunn taking AB's away from Viciedo or De Aza hinders the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 15, 2014 -> 02:28 PM) Of course we've been over this 1,000 times, but Dunn's contract is not hindering the Sox at all. Dunn taking AB's away from Viciedo or De Aza hinders the Sox. Dunn isn't hindering anyone. All Viciedo has to do is stay healthy and hit and he's got his spot in LF. ADA at this point is hopefully trade bait and doesn't really factor into what Hahn is setting this team up for in the short and long term so ADA getting as many at bats is no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Feb 15, 2014 -> 02:38 PM) Dunn isn't hindering anyone. All Viciedo has to do is stay healthy and hit and he's got his spot in LF. ADA at this point is hopefully trade bait and doesn't really factor into what Hahn is setting this team up for in the short and long term so ADA getting as many at bats is no big deal. De Aza is more important to this rebuild than Dunn, do you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Of course we've been over this 1,000 times, but Dunn's contract is not hindering the Sox at all. Dunn taking AB's away from Viciedo or De Aza hinders the Sox. Either this year or in the future, a team that relies on both Viciedo and De Aza as every day players, especially if one of them is the DH, is not going to contend for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 15, 2014 -> 02:44 PM) Either this year or in the future, a team that relies on both Viciedo and De Aza as every day players, especially if one of them is the DH, is not going to contend for anything. You're missing the point. They are both more important to this rebuild than Dunn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 You're missing the point. They are both more important to this rebuild than Dunn. Viciedo maybe, but not De Aza. De Aza is never going to fetch anything valuable in a trade. If he could, he'd be gone by now. Giving Dunn's playing time to De Aza accomplishes nothing, other than killing Dunn's potential trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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