Rowand44 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Feb 16, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) It's the scoring system the NHL should have, but doesn't. Definitely makes sense, I just assumed the NHL system. Don't assume, kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Feb 16, 2014 -> 05:26 PM) It's the scoring system the NHL should have, but doesn't. they did something on the XM NHL station a few weeks ago(first part of January?) where they awarded 3pts for regulation wins, 2 for OT/SO wins and 1 for OT/SO losses. The standings were basically the same in the East and Dallas at the time would've been ahead of Phoenix I believe. So things may have changed a little more since. The Puck Daddy did this in the beginning of December and the only division race that was altered was the Metro, and that was when the Metro was an absolute trainwreck. link I'd just prefer seeing ties brought back in. 2 points for reg/OT win, 1 point for OT loss, 0 for reg loss. No shootouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So I assume the U.S. didn't get the 1 seed because they went into OT for one of their games? EDIT: For some reason I was under the impression that all wins counted the same, didn't realize they got 1 less pt for winning in the shoot out. Yes, because Sweden had a cakewalk group, they were able to get three regulation wins, and got the #1 seed even their goal differential in three games was +5 while Canada has +9 and the US had +11, both in much tougher groups. The IIHF needs to stop using world rankings to seed the Olympic tournament. The world rankings are based mostly on World Championships, which are played the same time as the Stanley Cup playoffs, so very few NHL players participate. Nobody thinks that Canada and the US are the 5th and 6th best teams at the Olympics, so it's stupid to seed the preliminary groups that way. Now we get deprived of another epic US-Canada gold medal game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Feb 16, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) It's the scoring system the NHL should have, but doesn't. Also agreed. I would love to see a 3-2-1 scoring system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Feb 16, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) It's the scoring system the NHL should have, but doesn't. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 16, 2014 -> 07:29 PM) Also agreed. I would love to see a 3-2-1 scoring system. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 QUOTE (zenryan @ Feb 16, 2014 -> 05:49 PM) they did something on the XM NHL station a few weeks ago(first part of January?) where they awarded 3pts for regulation wins, 2 for OT/SO wins and 1 for OT/SO losses. The standings were basically the same in the East and Dallas at the time would've been ahead of Phoenix I believe. So things may have changed a little more since. The Puck Daddy did this in the beginning of December and the only division race that was altered was the Metro, and that was when the Metro was an absolute trainwreck. link I'd just prefer seeing ties brought back in. 2 points for reg/OT win, 1 point for OT loss, 0 for reg loss. No shootouts. I'm fine with ties. QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 16, 2014 -> 06:06 PM) Yes, because Sweden had a cakewalk group, they were able to get three regulation wins, and got the #1 seed even their goal differential in three games was +5 while Canada has +9 and the US had +11, both in much tougher groups. The IIHF needs to stop using world rankings to seed the Olympic tournament. The world rankings are based mostly on World Championships, which are played the same time as the Stanley Cup playoffs, so very few NHL players participate. Nobody thinks that Canada and the US are the 5th and 6th best teams at the Olympics, so it's stupid to seed the preliminary groups that way. Now we get deprived of another epic US-Canada gold medal game. The divisions weren't terribly different. They all had 2 of the 6 powers in there, which is what you need. Slovakia and Slovenia played poorly - I thought Slovakia would be better. Norway and Austria are weak. Czech may not be Finland or Russia as a 2nd, but Switzerland is better than any 3rd team (going in) in any other division based on what we've seen so far. Even Latvia wasn't as awful as I thought they'd be. It's also no guarantee US and Canada would both beat a Russia or a Sweden etc. to get there anyway. I wanted the matchup too, but if we get it in the semis, so be it, it'll still be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Times (ET) set for the Elimination and Quarterfinal rounds: Monday SLO v AUT 3am RUS v NOR 7:30am SUI vs LAT Noon CZE vs SVK Noon Tuesday SWE vs SLO/AUT 3am FIN vs RUS/NOR 7:30am CAN vs SUI/LAT Noon USA vs CZE/SVK Noon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 If baseball & softball were removed from the Olympics for issues with lack of competition, women's ice hockey can't be far behind. At last count, the US was outshooting Sweden 46-3 with a 5-0 lead. And that's in a semifinal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 17, 2014 -> 06:43 AM) Times (ET) set for the Elimination and Quarterfinal rounds: Monday SLO v AUT 3am RUS v NOR 7:30am SUI vs LAT Noon CZE vs SVK Noon Tuesday SWE vs SLO/AUT 3am FIN vs RUS/NOR 7:30am CAN vs SUI/LAT Noon USA vs CZE/SVK Noon This is a Chicago sports message board. The Central time zone is the only acceptable time zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 If baseball & softball were removed from the Olympics for issues with lack of competition, women's ice hockey can't be far behind. At last count, the US was outshooting Sweden 46-3 with a 5-0 lead. And that's in a semifinal. Right, but a European country will at least win bronze. It's sports where Europe doesn't win any medals that end up getting booted from the Olympics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 More insight on times for upcoming games: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-dad...-115001059.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Feb 17, 2014 -> 09:34 AM) More insight on times for upcoming games: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-dad...-115001059.html Ugh, why do two quarterfinal matchups have to be on at the exact same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 17, 2014 -> 09:39 AM) Ugh, why do two quarterfinal matchups have to be on at the exact same time? One game streaming on my work computer, one game on my cell phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Ugh, why do two quarterfinal matchups have to be on at the exact same time? There really isn't enough time in the day to have four separate game times with separate admission tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 17, 2014 -> 08:00 AM) If baseball & softball were removed from the Olympics for issues with lack of competition, women's ice hockey can't be far behind. At last count, the US was outshooting Sweden 46-3 with a 5-0 lead. And that's in a semifinal. I think I saw this correctly. 19 women's finals in world cup or Olympics 18 were Us Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 17, 2014 -> 10:32 AM) There really isn't enough time in the day to have four separate game times with separate admission tickets. 3 are at one rink, 1 at the other. They could at least stagger the start times instead of two puck drops exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Feb 17, 2014 -> 12:03 PM) 3 are at one rink, 1 at the other. They could at least stagger the start times instead of two puck drops exactly the same. Listen to the guy who ignores PMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 3 are at one rink, 1 at the other. They could at least stagger the start times instead of two puck drops exactly the same. Only if they make move one of two women's games scheduled for the other rink outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 17, 2014 -> 12:19 PM) Only if they make move one of two women's games scheduled for the other rink outside. There aren't any women's games scheduled that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 God damn, waking up at 6 to watch USA Hockey the last two days spoiled me. Now I'm suck at work like a loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 There aren't any women's games scheduled that day. OK, there are women's games scheduled tomorrow, so tomorrow they have to play two games at the same time, and since the winners of those games are playing the next day, they can't schedule one of those any earlier in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 17, 2014 -> 03:35 PM) OK, there are women's games scheduled tomorrow, so tomorrow they have to play two games at the same time, and since the winners of those games are playing the next day, they can't schedule one of those any earlier in the day. That still doesn't prevent them from staggering the game times on Wednesday, unless there is a rule where a game can't start, for example, 23 hours (or even 25) after the last game started instead of a full 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 That still doesn't prevent them from staggering the game times on Wednesday, unless there is a rule where a game can't start, for example, 23 hours (or even 25) after the last game started instead of a full 24. Less than 24 hours would not be fair to the team playing two days in a row. More than 24 hours would have the game ending very late local time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 That hour makes zero difference at that point. There's enough time to stagger it out if they wanted to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 In 2010 the four QF games were held at noon, 4:30, 7:00, & 9:00 local time. The Russians have the same times except for moving the 7:00 game to 9:00. It makes no sense, the 7:00 time slot would still be primetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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