Eminor3rd Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 04:01 PM) Ah, it's the common Beer Snob, Homo Confusialis. I could s*** in a bucket and hit it with a blender, throw some hops in that, and as long as I charge $4 a bottle and put a label on it to make you feel nice and German you'd sip it with your pinky finger up and mutter at all satisfactorily at your s***ty little sweater-wearing poodle "Ahhh good show old chap" etc. etc. etc. High Life & High Life Light, Miller Lite too, are all good, honest beers at tasty prices. Go drink your s***ty turd beer & me a& wite will be outside in the bushes at 3 in the morning pelting your house with eggs & s***-filled paper bags. Good honest behavior at a tasty price. I don't think you've tasted good beer. Don't get me wrong, there are perfectly good times and perfectly good places for the standard budget mop-water you are championing (all beer is to be enjoyed, other than Summer Shandy), but there is absolutely no question that better beer is unquestionably superior in every way, shy of the coveted "number of cans that can be consumed before unconsciousness" category of quality. It's even higher ABV. You don't have to be into Quadruppels and Lambics to appreciate a good American lager, for example. Next time you're bringing beer to a poker game, throw ten bucks at a sixer of Chicago's finest Metropolitan Dynamo lager, and tell me that's s*** in a bucket. Or if you want to stick with Pilsners, try a North Coast Scrimshaw side by side with a Miller Light, and you'll find it's just an obviously better version of the same thing. Edited February 13, 2014 by Eminor3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm not big into brandy and cognac, but I can and will drink pretty much anything else. I think the only beer I've ever actually turned down was Hamm's. If I'm drinking up, I'm hitting an IPA or a Stout. God I love IPAs. They say your tongue can get hops burnt, and it's true, but if it's a good IPA, I couldn't give a f***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (hi8is @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 03:07 PM) Seriously? Miller, Budweiser, Busch, pretty much all common American lagers are piss water. If you want to get drunk at a low cost with no real care for taste... Steel Reserve. Signed, A retired hall of fame alcoholic For me; Icehouse. Tried and true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 04:24 PM) I'm not big into brandy and cognac, but I can and will drink pretty much anything else. I think the only beer I've ever actually turned down was Hamm's. If I'm drinking up, I'm hitting an IPA or a Stout. God I love IPAs. They say your tongue can get hops burnt, and it's true, but if it's a good IPA, I couldn't give a f***. Hopslam is the finest! Three Floyd's Apocalypse Cow is a close second, IMO. But yeah, I'm a stout guy if I had to choose. I think the best beers in the world are American stouts. English stouts are boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 03:16 PM) I don't think you've tasted good beer. Don't get me wrong, there are perfectly good times and perfectly good places for the standard budget mop-water you are championing (all beer is to be enjoyed, other than Summer Shandy), but there is absolutely no question that better beer is unquestionably superior in every way, shy of the coveted "number of cans that can be consumed before unconsciousness" category of quality. It's even higher ABV. You don't have to be into Quadruppels and Lambics to appreciate a good American lager, for example. Next time you're bringing beer to a poker game, throw ten bucks at a sixer of Chicago's finest Metropolitan Dynamo lager, and tell me that's s*** in a bucket. I know you like your quality craft beers but TBH if I was going to hang out with you & your buddies at a poker game I'd bring Miller HIgh Life Light to get me started & a sixer of Guinness to keep me going. And I'd probably lose my chips rather quickly but I can assure you the farts would keep coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 04:25 PM) For me; Icehouse. Tried and true. Icehouse seems to give me a significantly worse hangover though. I don;t know why, it's like an extra punch in the nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Also I don't drink b**** drinks. Beer pretty much is it, but I'll drink whiskey or scotch. Don't care for Vodka striahgt & if you have to mix it with something to get it down what's the point? The only acceptable mixed drink is a bloody mary because that qualifies as breakfast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) I know you like your quality craft beers but TBH if I was going to hang out with you & your buddies at a poker game I'd bring Miller HIgh Life Light to get me started & a sixer of Guinness to keep me going. And I'd probably lose my chips rather quickly but I can assure you the farts would keep coming. Especially after the cupcakes. Poker isn't poker without f***ing cupcakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 03:26 PM) Hopslam is the finest! Three Floyd's Apocalypse Cow is a close second, IMO. But yeah, I'm a stout guy if I had to choose. I think the best beers in the world are American stouts. English stouts are boring. They had it at the candy store up here but it was $18 a 6 pack, so I picked up Kalamazoo Stout instead. That was a good choice. May have to pony up if they still have it. Summit's Saga is awesome too. Speaking of Bell's, I don't think I've had anything from them that I didn't like, and Oberon is like my favorite Spring/Summer beer. I can't wait until the NFL Draft and Stanley Cup because I am going to get a 12 pack of Oberon and drink the whole damn thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 03:28 PM) Also I don't drink b**** drinks. Beer pretty much is it, but I'll drink whiskey or scotch. Don't care for Vodka striahgt & if you have to mix it with something to get it down what's the point? The only acceptable mixed drink is a bloody mary because that qualifies as breakfast. I'll drink good vodka chilled, but overall I agree. It just doesn't mix well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Killed the second half of a Pipeworks Simcoe Ninja bomber last night, so so good. Still have a sixer of Ale Asylum Bedlam (Belgian IPA) in the fridge I'm excited to try. We're in a golden age of beer right now and living in the midwest we have unlimited, super fresh options at our disposal, best take advantage of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 03:28 PM) Also I don't drink b**** drinks. Beer pretty much is it, but I'll drink whiskey or scotch. Don't care for Vodka striahgt & if you have to mix it with something to get it down what's the point? The only acceptable mixed drink is a bloody mary because that qualifies as breakfast. Uh, anything with "lite" in it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 God I haven't had a [good] beer drinking night in a while. It was all Coors Light and Morgan Diets this past weekend, which, when bro-ing out, isn't so bad. I'm going to end up spending like $50 bucks at the candy store on beer now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 04:31 PM) They had it at the candy store up here but it was $18 a 6 pack, so I picked up Kalamazoo Stout instead. That was a good choice. May have to pony up if they still have it. Summit's Saga is awesome too. Speaking of Bell's, I don't think I've had anything from them that I didn't like, and Oberon is like my favorite Spring/Summer beer. I can't wait until the NFL Draft and Stanley Cup because I am going to get a 12 pack of Oberon and drink the whole damn thing. Michigan is a mecca for beer in general. Agreed 100% on Oberon. Bell's has a Stout called BLACK NOTE that comes out every couple years. It's half Kalamazoo and half Double Cream Stout that's then bourbon barreled. It might be the best beer in the world. Bell's might be my favorite brewery other than Founder's, also in Michigan. Founder's Kentucky Breakfast Stout is my other candidate for best beer on planet Earth. If you dig IPAs though, look at west coast stuff. That's sort of their style. Firestone Walker, Alesmith, Ballast Point all have some killer IPAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 04:33 PM) Killed the second half of a Pipeworks Simcoe Ninja bomber last night, so so good. Still have a sixer of Ale Asylum Bedlam (Belgian IPA) in the fridge I'm excited to try. We're in a golden age of beer right now and living in the midwest we have unlimited, super fresh options at our disposal, best take advantage of it. TROOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 03:49 PM) Michigan is a mecca for beer in general. Agreed 100% on Oberon. Bell's has a Stout called BLACK NOTE that comes out every couple years. It's half Kalamazoo and half Double Cream Stout that's then bourbon barreled. It might be the best beer in the world. Bell's might be my favorite brewery other than Founder's, also in Michigan. Founder's Kentucky Breakfast Stout is my other candidate for best beer on planet Earth. If you dig IPAs though, look at west coast stuff. That's sort of their style. Firestone Walker, Alesmith, Ballast Point all have some killer IPAs. Founder's doesn't distribute this far west I plan on making a Twin Cities trip in the next couple months, so I'll end up looking for some of it then. I also doubt it gets out your way, but Big Sky Brewery makes some amazing stuff too. Moose Drool is one of the best beers I've had. Thick, creamy, great texture, and great flavor. Edited February 13, 2014 by witesoxfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 03:49 PM) God I haven't had a [good] beer drinking night in a while. It was all Coors Light and Morgan Diets this past weekend, which, when bro-ing out, isn't so bad. I'm going to end up spending like $50 bucks at the candy store on beer now though. Gold. This coming from the guy who says you don't buy things you don't need. You can get smashed, tipsy, feeling good, slightly buzzed, etc. off an inexpensive beer that still breaks down into the same states of matter and still comes out the same holes, but you'd rather spend 3-4 times what you have to? And I AM CRAZY for buying meat at value (sale) prices and freezing it? I think here my good friend is our main source of disagreement with both Dunn and Santana (get prepped for that back tattoo) and it's that you don't understand values. I drink beer every day of my life. If I were to spend more on it then I would be forced to make sacrifices elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Some days you want a hamburger and some days you want a ribeye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 BTW some of the coolest experiences you can have is finding a homeless guy & his buddy, buying a bunch of cheap beer, and then hanging out with them and drinking, listening to stories and s***. Way cheaper, way better, way more fun and way more enlightening than sitting in the yuppie pub with a couple of yuppies overtipping the semi-attractive waitress/bartender who is currently blowing someone else & really couldn't give a damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 04:02 PM) Some days you want a hamburger and some days you want a ribeye. Red meat every day???? Try tilapia over fresh asparagus or spinach, cheaper & better. Salmon steaks too OMG f*** yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 04:04 PM) Red meat every day???? Try tilapia over fresh asparagus or spinach, cheaper & better. Salmon steaks too OMG f*** yeah. Well of course I eat other things, I'm not Ron Swanson. It was an analogy. I like to use fun colloquialisms like that. I also like to use the term colloquialism. Pan frying salmon in butter and getting a nice golden brown around the entire thing is amazing. Also, ahi tuna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 04:59 PM) Founder's doesn't distribute this far west I plan on making a Twin Cities trip in the next couple months, so I'll end up looking for some of it then. I also doubt it gets out your way, but Big Sky Brewery makes some amazing stuff too. Moose Drool is one of the best beers I've had. Thick, creamy, great texture, and great flavor. I love Moose Drool! It has been in Chicago for a while, but I'm not sure if it's in NY. I always tell Newcastle fans they have to try Moose Drool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 05:04 PM) Red meat every day???? Try tilapia over fresh asparagus or spinach, cheaper & better. Salmon steaks too OMG f*** yeah. I think you just proved our point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 02:24 PM) I'm not big into brandy and cognac, but I can and will drink pretty much anything else. I think the only beer I've ever actually turned down was Hamm's. If I'm drinking up, I'm hitting an IPA or a Stout. God I love IPAs. They say your tongue can get hops burnt, and it's true, but if it's a good IPA, I couldn't give a f***. I am a lover of all non-light, non-lambic beers, and Hamm's is one of my favorites. No foolin'. Was once nicknamed Hammster as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 05:01 PM) Gold. This coming from the guy who says you don't buy things you don't need. You can get smashed, tipsy, feeling good, slightly buzzed, etc. off an inexpensive beer that still breaks down into the same states of matter and still comes out the same holes, but you'd rather spend 3-4 times what you have to? And I AM CRAZY for buying meat at value (sale) prices and freezing it? I think here my good friend is our main source of disagreement with both Dunn and Santana (get prepped for that back tattoo) and it's that you don't understand values. I drink beer every day of my life. If I were to spend more on it then I would be forced to make sacrifices elsewhere. Sometimes you want to drink something that tastes awesome. There are nights when I'm actually annoyed that beer is alcoholic because I want more but I have to work the next day. It's just GOOD. And even if you want to drink it just for the alcohol, you offset cost because the average craft is like 6-7% ABV compared to the 3-4% of your low calorie "Lights," meaning you drink way fewer for the same buzz. The only advantage to the low end is if you want to piss more frequently. Or if you're gaming. I love beer gaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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