2014 NFL Draft Thread

[Boogua]

Emery said he will stay at corner and play nickel downs mostly this year. If that is the case it is a bad pick for 2014 playing only 3rd downs in the nickel over a starting safety does not help the Bears much in 2014. In 2015 Fuller taking over for Peanut at corner the pick will help alot more then.

This isn't 10 years ago. Nickel is played much more often than that.

 

E: For example, two years ago the Bears played Nickel 53% of the time

Edited May 9, 2014 by Boogua

[Soxfest]

I think the Browns just drafted Colt McCoy again. I hope I'm wrong though as I actually like Johnny football.

Johnny football hates the cold also welcome to Cleveland.

[Wanne]

I like what Browns have done. I really liked getting the CB. I have quietly been pushing CB over safety (in fact had MLB over safety too) and would have taken CB or Mosely over either safety, especially Ha Ha who I think is very overrated. I think in this deep corner draft we'll see Bears select another corner, who they think they can move to free safety. We got a guy who some thought was the top corner in the draft @ 14. I'll take that all day and let Tillman and company help coach him and prepare him. I hope we get another young guy to join the secondary and think it will be a third or 4th rounder that we convert. You can find good safety's late and that guy doesn't have to be a safety as you can teach a corner to be a safety and succeed (and I love the idea of having a guy that is a good cover guy at safety…clearly they have to be able to tackle too).

 

Completely agree with Ha Ha being overrated...I just liked the physical presence that Pryor brought back there. I miss having a big hitter like Plank and Mike Brown used to be. The Bears have complete turds back there right now at the S position and I hope Conte isn't even on the roster this year. I didn't have a problem not going DT since there's a ton of them to choose from in the 2nd. But if you stop and think about it...it seems every DB the bears have drafted in the 1st or 2nd round has turned out to be not that awful bad (sans Walt "Toast" Harris)...Wolford, Carrier, Parrish, Brown, Tillman, Manning...

Edited May 9, 2014 by Wanne

[Chisoxfn]

Emery said he will stay at corner and play nickel downs mostly this year. If that is the case it is a bad pick for 2014 playing only 3rd downs in the nickel over a starting safety does not help the Bears much in 2014. In 2015 Fuller taking over for Peanut at corner the pick will help alot more then.

Nickel CB's are on the field 70% of the time in this league and Peanut was hurt for a while. This will help Bears significantly and the guy has potential to be a shut down corner which we have a major need for. If you wanted to move him to FS, he probably profiles better then the safety's on the board too but the fact is a lot of scouts thought this guy was the best corner in the league and we have two corners on the wrong side of 30 and we are in a division with some elite passing offenses and wideouts. We can't afford not having top cover corners because if we don't have those, we will get torched. I think we will draft another corner and likely move them to FS. Could go with safety in round 2, although I think my ideal scenario is quite a few DT's we all like there in the 2nd and we maybe have the ability to move down a bit and try and get an extra 4th rounder and still get the DT and thus give us some ammo to take another CB (who we can convert), a RB, and a speed wideout or line backer (i'm even ok with another DT).

[Chisoxfn]

Completely agree with Ha Ha being overrated...I just liked the physical presence that Pryor brought back there. I miss having a big hitter like Plank and Mike Brown used to be. The Bears have complete turds back there right now at the S position and I hope Conte isn't even on the roster this year. I didn't have a problem not going DT since there's a ton of them to choose from in the 2nd. But if you stop and think about it...it seems every DB the bears have drafted in the 1st or 2nd round has turned out to not that awful bad (sans Walt "Toast" Harris)...Wolford, Carrier, Parrish, Brown, Tillman, Manning...

Our safety play will be better with an improved line. Our safety's were f***ed last year. Dline couldn't hold anything so you had threats of runs and then no pass rush, so all the time in the world. Those guys had zero chance of succeeding. Ha Ha isn't the play maker you want at safety and has character red flags. Fuller is a play maker in college and has some real good athleticism (maybe not pure 40 speed but a lot of quickness which is more important and great 3 cone drill) and really did a great job in terms of forcing turnovers and breaking up plays. Good ball skills.

[Chisoxfn]

Completely agree with Ha Ha being overrated...I just liked the physical presence that Pryor brought back there. I miss having a big hitter like Plank and Mike Brown used to be. The Bears have complete turds back there right now at the S position and I hope Conte isn't even on the roster this year. I didn't have a problem not going DT since there's a ton of them to choose from in the 2nd. But if you stop and think about it...it seems every DB the bears have drafted in the 1st or 2nd round has turned out to be not that awful bad (sans Walt "Toast" Harris)...Wolford, Carrier, Parrish, Brown, Tillman, Manning...

Lets hope you haven't jinxed it, haha. I think Bears will have good opportunity to move down in the 2nd round and still get a DT who would maybe be a borderline first rounder.

[bmags]

Every time you lost more scouts have claimed he is top corner. Id take Gilbert ten times and twice on Sunday before Fuller.

[Wanne]

Lets hope you haven't jinxed it, haha. I think Bears will have good opportunity to move down in the 2nd round and still get a DT who would maybe be a borderline first rounder.

 

lots of good DTs left...Nix, Sutton, Jernigan, Hageman...or go S with Bucannon.

cocksuck...as soon as I type that Cardinals take Bucannon. Great pick for them...team him with Honey Badger...and with Patrick Peterson and Cromartie...that's a great D backfield!

Edited May 9, 2014 by Wanne

[Chisoxfn]

lots of good DTs left...Nix, Sutton, Jernigan, Hageman...or go S with Bucannon.

I think they draft another CB and move him to safety. Emery has talked about the depth in the secondary and I figure he thinks he can get a good cover guy who can move to safety. Bucanon off the board. Ward and Brooks really the last 2 safety's worthy of a 1st 2 round grade left.

[Chisoxfn]

Every time you lost more scouts have claimed he is top corner. Id take Gilbert ten times and twice on Sunday before Fuller.

What are you trying to say in the 1st sentence?

[Soxfest]

Nickel CB's are on the field 70% of the time in this league and Peanut was hurt for a while. This will help Bears significantly and the guy has potential to be a shut down corner which we have a major need for. If you wanted to move him to FS, he probably profiles better then the safety's on the board too but the fact is a lot of scouts thought this guy was the best corner in the league and we have two corners on the wrong side of 30 and we are in a division with some elite passing offenses and wideouts. We can't afford not having top cover corners because if we don't have those, we will get torched. I think we will draft another corner and likely move them to FS. Could go with safety in round 2, although I think my ideal scenario is quite a few DT's we all like there in the 2nd and we maybe have the ability to move down a bit and try and get an extra 4th rounder and still get the DT and thus give us some ammo to take another CB (who we can convert), a RB, and a speed wideout or line backer (i'm even ok with another DT).

Tucker is putting in his system this year in Jacksonville as DC he played nickel less than 50% maybe that will change nobody knows yet. Fuller will be good down the road especially in 2015 when Peanut is gone, but I want the 14th pick on the draft starting from day 1 not playing 50% or 70% of the snaps. I do agree Bears can go many direction in round 2 and 3.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Soxfest

[Wanne]

I think they draft another CB and move him to safety. Emery has talked about the depth in the secondary and I figure he thinks he can get a good cover guy who can move to safety. Bucanon off the board. Ward and Brooks really the last 2 safety's worthy of a 1st 2 round grade left.

 

I'll literally s*** my pants if they draft back to back CBs! Gotta be DT....

[Chisoxfn]

I'll literally s*** my pants if they draft back to back CBs! Gotta be DT....

Oh I didn't mean in round two. I don't think they are taking a CB in round 2. They could take a safety, although I doubt it. I think it is definitely a DT (unless they think a DT they like will be there later and they decide to go LB (cause no safety will be left with a 2nd round grade when the Bears pick).

[bulokis]

Who else is left at S for the next round?

[dasox24]

f*** you, Emery. 3rd straight year you've done this. What the f*** are you doing?

 

And with that, all of the Safeties are gone. We're stuck with what we have. Conte and Mundy starting at Safety. Yikes. What a joke. Hope he's f***ing happy.

 

I like Fuller. But not at 14. And not when the top two Safeties in the draft are still on the board. Further, this is a very deep CB class. Could have gotten a "contributor" in the 2nd-3rd round. In the 1st, you have to take an immediate starter. Not a guy you "expect to contribute." That Emery quote just pisses me off. It's like when he talked about McClellin being a guy who could contribute on special teams. f*** that. You need to take immediate impact guys in the 1st round (unless it's a QB).

 

Then the Packers take our man Clinton-Dix and laugh in our faces. He'll end up picking off Cutler and we're all going to hurt because he could have been ours. I can just see him making some big play to beat the Bears and send the Packers to the playoffs. They beat us on the field and in the off-season every year. I'm getting sick of it.

[RockRaines]

f*** you, Emery. 3rd straight year you've done this. What the f*** are you doing?

 

And with that, all of the Safeties are gone. We're stuck with what we have. Conte and Mundy starting at Safety. Yikes. What a joke. Hope he's f***ing happy.

 

I like Fuller. But not at 14. And not when the top two Safeties in the draft are still on the board. Further, this is a very deep CB class. Could have gotten a "contributor" in the 2nd-3rd round. In the 1st, you have to take an immediate starter. Not a guy you "expect to contribute." That Emery quote just pisses me off. It's like when he talked about McClellin being a guy who could contribute on special teams. f*** that. You need to take immediate impact guys in the 1st round (unless it's a QB).

 

Then the Packers take our man Clinton-Dix and laugh in our faces. He'll end up picking off Cutler and we're all going to hurt because he could have been ours. I can just see him making some big play to beat the Bears and send the Packers to the playoffs. They beat us on the field and in the off-season every year. I'm getting sick of it.

Id say last years draft was pretty darn good.

[chw42]

The Vikings got a steal...

[Brian]

Id say last years draft was pretty darn good.

 

Yes. Stacked and rebuilt the O-line was needed.

[Chisoxfn]

f*** you, Emery. 3rd straight year you've done this. What the f*** are you doing?

 

And with that, all of the Safeties are gone. We're stuck with what we have. Conte and Mundy starting at Safety. Yikes. What a joke. Hope he's f***ing happy.

 

I like Fuller. But not at 14. And not when the top two Safeties in the draft are still on the board. Further, this is a very deep CB class. Could have gotten a "contributor" in the 2nd-3rd round. In the 1st, you have to take an immediate starter. Not a guy you "expect to contribute." That Emery quote just pisses me off. It's like when he talked about McClellin being a guy who could contribute on special teams. f*** that. You need to take immediate impact guys in the 1st round (unless it's a QB).

 

Then the Packers take our man Clinton-Dix and laugh in our faces. He'll end up picking off Cutler and we're all going to hurt because he could have been ours. I can just see him making some big play to beat the Bears and send the Packers to the playoffs. They beat us on the field and in the off-season every year. I'm getting sick of it.

You are wrong about Dix Evan, I'm telling you. Pryor is who we should have took if we wanted a safety. It will be okay.

[Soxfest]

Emery is 1-1............Kyle Long a huge hit..........Shea Keegan McClellin a huge miss. Kyle Fuller we shall see.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Soxfest

[Wanne]

f*** you, Emery. 3rd straight year you've done this. What the f*** are you doing?

 

And with that, all of the Safeties are gone. We're stuck with what we have. Conte and Mundy starting at Safety. Yikes. What a joke. Hope he's f***ing happy.

 

I like Fuller. But not at 14. And not when the top two Safeties in the draft are still on the board. Further, this is a very deep CB class. Could have gotten a "contributor" in the 2nd-3rd round. In the 1st, you have to take an immediate starter. Not a guy you "expect to contribute." That Emery quote just pisses me off. It's like when he talked about McClellin being a guy who could contribute on special teams. f*** that. You need to take immediate impact guys in the 1st round (unless it's a QB).

 

Then the Packers take our man Clinton-Dix and laugh in our faces. He'll end up picking off Cutler and we're all going to hurt because he could have been ours. I can just see him making some big play to beat the Bears and send the Packers to the playoffs. They beat us on the field and in the off-season every year. I'm getting sick of it.

 

well...I'd much rather have had Pryor..not so much HaHa. I'd have taken Bucannon over Clinton-Dix. I'm not gonna dog on Emery for last year...Kyle Long is a complete stud and quickly turned into my favorite player. He should be kicked in the nuts for the Shea and Brandon Hardin picks...but overall I'm pleased with what he's done. We'll see tho on the D side... Speaking of Ha Ha...

 

http://www.cbfans.net/forum/download/file.php?id=247

Edited May 9, 2014 by Wanne

[fathom]

I thought Fuller was way better than Haha last year in college. I'm a fan of Fuller.

[dasox24]

Id say last years draft was pretty darn good.

Sort of... I love Long. He's the man. But I like to point out that we still took a Guard in the 1st round. That's generally a poor idea. We could have taken Larry Warford in the 2nd and he would have had a similar impact. And let's be honest, Emery lucked out. We took a guy who started 4 games in college and wasn't considered NFL-ready. Nobody saw the type of year he had coming.

 

Or if you want to go way back: if Emery had taken David DeCastro like he should have in 2012 instead of McClellin, then OG wouldn't have been a need at all last year, and we could have filled a different need with that 1st pick.

 

I'll say it: I'm not sold on Emery. His free agent moves have been good. His drafting makes me scratch my head more often than not. Jeffery was a fantastic pick but anybody with football knowledge could have made that pick. I was screaming for us to trade up and get him when he started falling. Otherwise, everybody has been a reach.

[dasox24]

I don't think y'all realize how deep of a CB class this is and how thin at Safety. You take the top rated Safety in Round 1 (Pryor or Clinton-Dix, whoever you prefer) and then still have the ability to add a very quality CB in Round 2 or 3. DT is pretty deep too, which is a rarity.

 

Again, let me reiterate: I like Fuller but I don't like the pick.

Edited May 9, 2014 by dasox24

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

Oh man, my Rams got a couple nice hosses on the line in Greg Robinson and Aaron Donald.

 

SO, SO, SO, SO glad that Jerry Jones was just f***ing around about the Manziel thing, used his head, and got a stud like Zach Martin to protect Tony Romo. Really need to go defense on the next 3 rounds though. That defense is absolutely horrendous.